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    I agree with you OP. I think as a company they should listen to the fans for all of their games.

    Its been a decade now fans been begging for a remake of a certain game.


    Rebirth of the Phoenix would probably make a good name for the PS3 launch. Or even for an expansion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grandm View Post
    a sports fan would go their teams stadium and see their fav team play, both paying money and respect at the same time :P

    as some1 that only came to the game just before 1.19, i missed all the bad times, i must say i get the final fantasy feel and i only play this MMO for FF feel so. thank you
    They gave us the Following:

    -1.3 years worth of free play
    - 2 months free trial Again for Version 2.0
    -Giving players that own the game a Free Copy of FFXIV 2.0

    That's why I respect SE, and not to mention the communication they have established with the community
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanfire View Post
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    Seriously? Whenever you go buy a game, sometimes it rocks and sometimes it sucks. That's really how things go. You're really in no position to demand your money back or anything, that's just how it is. SE is remaking the game from scratch to save their brand name and try to give the game a 2nd go, instead of trying to just patch it up the best they can.

    It is a hard task and they count on us to tell them if they are heading in the right direction in order to make sure that the re-launch will be as smooth as possible. It is hard work and it would be nice for them to hear some encouragement instead of all the whining and complaining they are used to.
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    Last edited by Enkrateia; 10-29-2011 at 03:26 AM. Reason: inflam

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bizniztyme View Post
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    still playing? you mean just started playing in 1.19, because thats when i started to even care. I was a long time FFXI player and had hype out the ass for this game, and it turned into garbage. Im barely playing, mainly leveling because its one of the few things thats solid right now. If they started charging right this second, id put it down until 2.0 without even thinking about it, its just not good enough "yet" to pay for it. By 2.0 i think with lots of the major issues (crappy world, terrible server coding issues, smooth UI, lots of new and possible content and features that can only be done in 2.0....ect) il be glad to pay, but until i see those things done, im not going to bother. So don't tell me what i do and don't do.

    @Oni....you cant compare this to buying a bad normal game, because heres the kicker....its subscription based MMO! They ony do as good as the amount of players who are consatntly paying for the game. Do i think what they showed will be good? sure...can i see it right now and have 100% proof it works...nope? Do you buy broken bad games purely based on the devs saying "we will patch it and make it better"...i sure don't nor does most of the people who buy games.

    There is a reason the game is like it is now, having a small community (which will drop off a good bit until next year) and it has all the horrible press it does.
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    Last edited by Enkrateia; 10-29-2011 at 03:27 AM. Reason: inflam

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanfire View Post
    still playing? you mean just started playing in 1.19, because thats when i started to even care. I was a long time FFXI player and had hype out the ass for this game, and it turned into garbage. Im barely playing, mainly leveling because its one of the few things thats solid right now. If they started charging right this second, id put it down until 2.0 without even thinking about it, its just not good enough "yet" to pay for it. By 2.0 i think with lots of the major issues (crappy world, terrible server coding issues, smooth UI, lots of new and possible content and features that can only be done in 2.0....ect) il be glad to pay, but until i see those things done, im not going to bother. So don't tell me what i do and don't do.

    @Oni....you cant compare this to buying a bad normal game, because heres the kicker....its subscription based MMO! They ony do as good as the amount of players who are consatntly paying for the game. Do i think what they showed will be good? sure...can i see it right now and have 100% proof it works...nope? Do you buy broken bad games purely based on the devs saying "we will patch it and make it better"...i sure don't nor does most of the people who buy games.

    There is a reason the game is like it is now, having a small community (which will drop off a good bit until next year) and it has all the horrible press it does.
    They haven't been charging any subscription for the game since it released(they will next month and Yoshi-P says that by then we will have feature worth paying for, I'm not too convienced but ya..) and they are not patching the game , but remaking it. This is very ballsy of them, because other mmos who failed, just patched up the holes here and there to make an acceptable product. SE could have done the same and just continue the patching process that has been going since launch.

    The game would have improved but there certain things that cannot be be "fixed". That's why they went the remake route and decided to sink another few mills into the game. It is in their interest but i thank them for that because i was waiting for SE's new FF MMO for a while now and FFXIV was a huge disappointment. With our suggestions and continous feedback maybe they will deliver the game we were all hoping for.
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    come on pple give more love!
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    No offense to the OP but Blizzard communicate with its players and accept similar feedback via their forums and Public Test Realm.

    I do agree that Yoshi-p is doing a great job though, especially considering he is working at SE, who would have thought a dev there would be so open to players opinions.

    Keep up the good work FFXIV team, I look forward to 1.20 and 1.21 even more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Onidemon View Post
    They haven't been charging any subscription for the game since it released(they will next month and Yoshi-P says that by then we will have feature worth paying for, I'm not too convienced but ya..) and they are not patching the game , but remaking it. This is very ballsy of them, because other mmos who failed, just patched up the holes here and there to make an acceptable product. SE could have done the same and just continue the patching process that has been going since launch.

    The game would have improved but there certain things that cannot be be "fixed". That's why they went the remake route and decided to sink another few mills into the game. It is in their interest but i thank them for that because i was waiting for SE's new FF MMO for a while now and FFXIV was a huge disappointment. With our suggestions and continous feedback maybe they will deliver the game we were all hoping for.
    Yes, they could have just "patched up holes" like tanaka was going to, and they would have had a tiny community with them making no money or it would have died, instead they decided that making money is a good thing and that they are SE and have the money to make something much better, they know people have expectations that are much higher, which is what they are trying to achive. My problem is supporting the current game by paying for it. The reasons i listed and the ones you said are all why this is 1.0 and they need to scrap it...i dont want to pay for 1.0 and all of its flaws. Il GLADLY pay for 2.0 and all that i can be, but until its in my hands me and many others wont.

    The kind of support il give is my approval: Yoshi is taking it to a much much better place and im very glad, but i can not justify giving this game my money until they give us what should be the better version of the game (2.0) At that time i will support it with my money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanfire View Post
    still playing? you mean just started playing in 1.19, because thats when i started to even care. I was a long time FFXI player and had hype out the ass for this game, and it turned into garbage. Im barely playing, mainly leveling because its one of the few things thats solid right now. If they started charging right this second, id put it down until 2.0 without even thinking about it, its just not good enough "yet" to pay for it. By 2.0 i think with lots of the major issues (crappy world, terrible server coding issues, smooth UI, lots of new and possible content and features that can only be done in 2.0....ect) il be glad to pay, but until i see those things done, im not going to bother. So don't tell me what i do and don't do.

    @Oni....you cant compare this to buying a bad normal game, because heres the kicker....its subscription based MMO! They ony do as good as the amount of players who are consatntly paying for the game. Do i think what they showed will be good? sure...can i see it right now and have 100% proof it works...nope? Do you buy broken bad games purely based on the devs saying "we will patch it and make it better"...i sure don't nor does most of the people who buy games.

    There is a reason the game is like it is now, having a small community (which will drop off a good bit until next year) and it has all the horrible press it does.
    You're barely playing but you're still playing a game you call garbage, shit, whatever word you want to use? I'm not telling you what to do and not do, I was just asking why you call something garbage and still play it? I thought it was a pretty ligit question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bizniztyme View Post
    You're barely playing but you're still playing a game you call garbage, shit, whatever word you want to use? I'm not telling you what to do and not do, I was just asking why you call something garbage and still play it? I thought it was a pretty ligit question.
    If the game is shit period, Why would you play it.... ever? even for 1 day? The excuse saying " I just started back up playing" is getting old. like seriously
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