Quote Originally Posted by missybee View Post
I think y'all might make more progress talking to a literal brick wall.

That being said, even at minimum ilevel, there should be down time for healers. Maybe not during large pulls, but at the VERY least during bosses. No one is asking to be carried by healers. We just want everyone in the party to contribute equally.

With regard to needing a parser to know whether or not the healer is attempting to DPS - what even?

It isn't a secret when healers are casting and/or they go into Cleric Stance. Even come 4.0 with the Cleric Stance changes, we can still see their cast bars and rocks hitting the mobs.
OH REALLY~?

So tell me how these so called "I have more DPS as a healer than the DPS characters" people are keeping track of these numbers then? Are they frame-by-frame counting everything they see while playing the dungeon they are recording? Absolute nonsense. There is a website out there that people have been using to log their parsers, and they are not shy about using them.

The cleric stance or rocks hitting the mobs doesn't tell you anything about zero-cast's like benediction, assize and tetra, or anything swiftcast'd. It's easy to tell when the healer is doing healing because half the things they can do are HoT's and have indications that hey are active. You don't know if they threw Stone III once or 20 times during that encounter unless you were parsing it.

So please, all the people I see arguing for healers to DPS and bragging about how good they are at it, are almost guaranteed to be using parsers.