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    Gamer3427's Avatar
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    Rashi Shadowblade
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    Shiva
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    Machinist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Ama_Hamada View Post
    That is bad healing, has nothing to do with cleric stance, it is only 5 seconds. Only time I see that is in 24 man DFs like dun or city, so sick of co healers making me do all the work because they can't cast an aoe heal here or there. Please do not misblame bad players on an ability -.- be no different them me saying we need to get rid of DPS stances in tanks because most can't hold hate and use DPS stance when tank stance is needed. How come more don't jump on that? Why do people finger point cleric so much?

    Cleric stance is not to blame, I say "Help me heal" not flip out on cleric. I also seen pure healers lack skill in healing and had same thing "sitting at half health or lower for 30s or so prior to an unavoidable mechanic" making me stress all my abilities solo healing to keep people up. Most notable is that peity melded whm that called me rude for asking for help to raise people when I am sitting at 0-2000 mp with them 8000+/16000 with me blowing stuff like Dissipation for a small mp gain.
    I'm not blaming the skill at all. While I main MCH, I do play SCH quite a bit, and I do DPS a lot. I was just saying that because of the "healers have to DPS" mentality that a lot of the playerbase has, there are an abundance of healers such as that where they end up DPSing more than healing. It's all about DPSing at the right time and place, but it's getting harder and harder to find healers in DF content that realize that. Yes, those healers are absolutely bad healers as a result. My point was that the community's mentality that I've seen more than a few times of "if you're not DPSing, you're a bad healer" is what has created such players.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by TouchandFeel View Post
    Strangely enough, if you assume the OP is from a parallel universe, it all makes sense.
    ...
    That or they are just spouting gibberish.

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    Shurrikhan's Avatar
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    Tani Shirai
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    Cactuar
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    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Gamer3427 View Post
    I'm not blaming the skill at all. While I main MCH, I do play SCH quite a bit, and I do DPS a lot. I was just saying that because of the "healers have to DPS" mentality that a lot of the playerbase has, there are an abundance of healers such as that where they end up DPSing more than healing. It's all about DPSing at the right time and place, but it's getting harder and harder to find healers in DF content that realize that. Yes, those healers are absolutely bad healers as a result. My point was that the community's mentality that I've seen more than a few times of "if you're not DPSing, you're a bad healer" is what has created such players.....
    If the typical instance allows more globals of DPS than healing, it seems kind of strange to be looking for the globals capable of DPS rather than the globals that will require healing. Make damage prediction the part strategized around, and DPS the norm, and I'm pretty sure one's combined output would improve. One shouldn't be waiting for damage, and swapping over to DPSing when they think nothing's likely to happen. They should know. That is the goal. All meaningful damage in this game is by-event.

    The only point of hesitation ought to be in the single global of Cleric that one would waste in order not to be locked out on the next if there's about to be avoidable damage that must be made up for in that GCD and that you do not trust your entire team to avoid. In these cases, however, one can still refresh HoTs or otherwise make any use of the GCD that would not waste mana on a crippled offensive cast.

    Now even those junctions, maybe 3 per fight with unreliable—but not so poor as to assume failure to dodge—group, are gone. Yet the "healers should only be focused on healing" false ultimatum will remain. Any good healer should know when and what must be healed, and how to time the GCDs between where healing is necessary and healing can be prepped as to make the most efficient use of each (e.g. wasting up to one tick of a HoT in favor of gaining 2-3 ticks of DoT before necessary direct healing globals).
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