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  1. #21
    Player Kosmos992k's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by enthauptet View Post
    You have to have PS Plus to even play pretty much every single player games (since all of them use coop or server side processing for anti-cheating now) so I'm not sure why it has ever been an issue for them. Maybe because it was not required for PS3? It has been since PS4 so...

    Having individual separate servers is the only thing that really matters imo. If they really care about paying for gold then their priorities are asinine as 99% of xbox users already have it and the people that don't aren't playing right now so their sub lapsed.
    No, the stance is the same. It's up to the developers whether or not to make use of PS Plus. If they want to remain outside that ecosystem, they have to agree that with Sony, and provide their own online service components. There is still some integration with PSN, but PS Plus is not needed. People seem to have some kind of compulsive need to imagine otherwise, but it's not the case. Now, considering that providing your own infrastructure isn't cheap, I can see why many devs choose not to do that. Also, additional features available specifically through PS Plus may be part of what they want to offer their gamers.

    But, at the end of the day, the simple truth is that technologically speaking, all that is needed to play online with PS4 is PSN for authentication and license checking - so long as the game supports this. PS Plus isn't needed, and no amount of mental gymnastics will make it otherwise. Also, this has nothing to do with PS3, it's Sony policy.

    Oh, and BTW the uptake rate for Gold membership with Xbox 360 was no where near 100%, it was closer to 60% and I've seen nothing to suggest that it's any different now. It's most certainly not 99% of Xbox gamers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elkanah View Post
    Since FFXI had cross platform from PS2, Xbox 360 and PC, I couldn't see why we couldn't do this on XIV with the PS4, PC and Xbox One. It was literally done in the past! XD

    Does the Switch have the same kind of tech as the PS3?
    Microsoft wanted a Final Fantasy title to sell the 360 in Japan. Now they don't care, since the Xbox One is doing horribly there, so they are much less inclined to make an exception. They also want "servers for xbox only" as an option for their players. Yoshi-P disagrees, so there is a standstill until Microsoft budges.
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    FFXIV for the Switch... Yeah, even as big of a Nintendo fan I am, even I don't think that should happen unless Nintendo makes a more powerful Switch. The Switch might be able to handle the settings for the PS3 version. But as it is, I don't think the Switch would be able to properly handle the upgraded base requirements that come with 4.0.

    As for an Xbox version, I have very little thoughts on that. Xbox has never had any exclusives that has prompted me to buy their systems. So if an Xbox version happens, it happens. And if it never does, it'll still be business as usual for me.
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    Plz twelve no switch.. its almost laughable to imply it while making PS3 Support drop & PC Spec Raise pointless lol As for Xbox, they keep saying that they've changed there stance on crossplay but nothings happening yet so obviously there still at an impass.. M$ is the one that needs to budge on this to make this happen and gotta admit... This game would possibly look amazing on "Scorpio".
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    Quote Originally Posted by enthauptet View Post
    You have to have PS Plus to even play pretty much every single player games (since all of them use coop or server side processing for anti-cheating now) so I'm not sure why it has ever been an issue for them. Maybe because it was not required for PS3? It has been since PS4 so...

    Having individual separate servers is the only thing that really matters imo. If they really care about paying for gold then their priorities are asinine as 99% of xbox users already have it and the people that don't aren't playing right now so their sub lapsed.
    No you don't. You only need ps plus to play online games. the exceptions being games that are free to play or have a sub fee. Everything else to play online multiplayer needs plus
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    i hope it never get released on the switch
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    A switch version would be a retrograde step, we just phased out the PS3, why lumber the game with inadequate platforms to support again?

    P.S. no switch isn't powerful enough, it's not even as powerful as an nVidia Shield.
    This argument has a noticeable hole in it: Dragon Quest X. Near as I can tell, it runs about as well on the Switch as any other platform.

    I can't tell how well XIV would run, but SE, unlike the lazy-a$$ed Western 3rd parties on our side of the Pacific, might have ways to optimize the game.
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    Switch is a bad idea as it doesnt have enough power

    I am ok with XBox if they agree to share servers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hayward View Post
    This argument has a noticeable hole in it: Dragon Quest X. Near as I can tell, it runs about as well on the Switch as any other platform.

    I can't tell how well XIV would run, but SE, unlike the lazy-a$$ed Western 3rd parties on our side of the Pacific, might have ways to optimize the game.
    What is your point? Dragon Quest X was a Wii (yes, original Wii)game, of course it'd work on Switch...

    The point many are making is that making a Switch version would be ridiculous, as they've just rid themselves of the whole PS3 problem - they'd be replacing one problem with another. If you didn't know, the Switch isn't very powerful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thegreatonemal View Post
    No you don't. You only need ps plus to play online games. the exceptions being games that are free to play or have a sub fee. Everything else to play online multiplayer needs plus
    RIght! I'm over here trying to figure out what singleplayer requires ps+.
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