Preserving removed animations in 4.0

[Eloah]

Did they indicate why they are removing ring of thorns. Is it the whole no AoE thing again, grr..... it was a decent AoE move better than that line one.

[Vaer]

Did they indicate why they are removing ring of thorns. Is it the whole no AoE thing again, grr..... it was a decent AoE move better than that line one.

They added a new line combo with a new skill called Sonic Thrust.

[Ama_Hamada]

They added a new line combo with a new skill called Sonic Thrust.

Why is it level 62? ring of thorns is 46, so you don't have aoe for 60 caps and below? And straight line ? so no aoe now?

[Allyrion]

Why is it level 62? ring of thorns is 46, so you don't have aoe for 60 caps and below? And straight line ? so no aoe now?

DRG keeps Doom Spike which comes at 42, before Ring of Thorns. It's also the AoE, you're supposed to use as a filler and Ring of Thorns was only good when following Heavy Thrust (when it needs refreshing).

This change results in a very minor tp loss between 46-62, but you gain a lot more AoE damage and tp efficiency post-62. Ring of Thorns was a trap ability because new players who don't know better would spam it instead of Doom Spike. SE is making changes so it's more intuitive how to AoE.

About the complete removal, I liked the animation but I'm also not crying for it's sound going away or its spam potential.

[Eloah]

DRG keeps Doom Spike which comes at 42, before Ring of Thorns. It's also the AoE, you're supposed to use as a filler and Ring of Thorns was only good when following Heavy Thrust (when it needs refreshing).

This change results in a very minor tp loss between 46-62, but you gain a lot more AoE damage and tp efficiency post-62. Ring of Thorns was a trap ability because new players who don't know better would spam it instead of Doom Spike. SE is making changes so it's more intuitive how to AoE.

About the complete removal, I liked the animation but I'm also not crying for it's sound going away or its spam potential.

It wasnt that bad if you proced it, but AoE is always better when its circular, lines and cones require placement, and no matter the role getting all enemies in just the right spot is difficult.

[Canadane]

Did they indicate why they are removing ring of thorns. Is it the whole no AoE thing again, grr..... it was a decent AoE move better than that line one.

If you mean Doom Spike, Doom Spike is better in most situations.

On subject, yes I'd like to somehow see the animations stay. Though I wonder if we'll just see them used for new moves again in the later future.

[Kazrah]

Did they indicate why they are removing ring of thorns. Is it the whole no AoE thing again, grr..... it was a decent AoE move better than that line one.

They didn't mention why, but my guess is that it's because of some dribble about individuality and how no other melee job has a linear AoE. Maybe peppered in with some explanation of how it feels more logical lore-wise or something along those lines.

Oh right, let's not forget every doofus in Idyllshire endlessly spamming it because it makes you wonder "who finds that entertaining" only to realize that it might have to do with the reasoning behind the DRG "first dead" stereotype.