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    Quote Originally Posted by Eloah View Post
    Did they indicate why they are removing ring of thorns. Is it the whole no AoE thing again, grr..... it was a decent AoE move better than that line one.
    They added a new line combo with a new skill called Sonic Thrust.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaer View Post
    They added a new line combo with a new skill called Sonic Thrust.

    Why is it level 62? ring of thorns is 46, so you don't have aoe for 60 caps and below? And straight line ? so no aoe now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ama_Hamada View Post
    Why is it level 62? ring of thorns is 46, so you don't have aoe for 60 caps and below? And straight line ? so no aoe now?
    DRG keeps Doom Spike which comes at 42, before Ring of Thorns. It's also the AoE, you're supposed to use as a filler and Ring of Thorns was only good when following Heavy Thrust (when it needs refreshing).

    This change results in a very minor tp loss between 46-62, but you gain a lot more AoE damage and tp efficiency post-62. Ring of Thorns was a trap ability because new players who don't know better would spam it instead of Doom Spike. SE is making changes so it's more intuitive how to AoE.

    About the complete removal, I liked the animation but I'm also not crying for it's sound going away or its spam potential.
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    Last edited by Allyrion; 06-05-2017 at 03:27 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allyrion View Post
    DRG keeps Doom Spike which comes at 42, before Ring of Thorns. It's also the AoE, you're supposed to use as a filler and Ring of Thorns was only good when following Heavy Thrust (when it needs refreshing).

    This change results in a very minor tp loss between 46-62, but you gain a lot more AoE damage and tp efficiency post-62. Ring of Thorns was a trap ability because new players who don't know better would spam it instead of Doom Spike. SE is making changes so it's more intuitive how to AoE.

    About the complete removal, I liked the animation but I'm also not crying for it's sound going away or its spam potential.
    It wasnt that bad if you proced it, but AoE is always better when its circular, lines and cones require placement, and no matter the role getting all enemies in just the right spot is difficult.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eloah View Post
    Did they indicate why they are removing ring of thorns. Is it the whole no AoE thing again, grr..... it was a decent AoE move better than that line one.
    If you mean Doom Spike, Doom Spike is better in most situations.

    On subject, yes I'd like to somehow see the animations stay. Though I wonder if we'll just see them used for new moves again in the later future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eloah View Post
    Did they indicate why they are removing ring of thorns. Is it the whole no AoE thing again, grr..... it was a decent AoE move better than that line one.
    They didn't mention why, but my guess is that it's because of some dribble about individuality and how no other melee job has a linear AoE. Maybe peppered in with some explanation of how it feels more logical lore-wise or something along those lines.

    Oh right, let's not forget every doofus in Idyllshire endlessly spamming it because it makes you wonder "who finds that entertaining" only to realize that it might have to do with the reasoning behind the DRG "first dead" stereotype.
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    Ring of Thorn is gone? Hallelujah!
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    R.I.P. Barrage

    I freaking miss you already..
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    already closing the skill gap
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ama_Hamada View Post
    already closing the skill gap
    Honestly i would of preferred them keeping Wide Volley and removing Quick Nock, Quick Nock has a range limit, Wide Volley didnt so using it didn't require i be up the enemies arse.
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