This is just appalling

[Gamer3427]

I actually considered buying the new outfit, just because I was in the mood to spend a little extra on a game I enjoy so much, but then I saw the price and I was instantly turned away. It's baffling how even F2P MMOs don't go that crazy high with their cash shop items, yet a subscription based MMO like XIV that has plenty of income, (enough that they are striking all the deals in the world to advertise for SB), is charging such outrageous prices. Though, to be fair, I suppose a large portion of their profits are from people paying those prices.....

I've known more than a few people who have disposable incomes and are willing to pick up everything they find on a whim, and that's the very reason those of us who don't have cash to toss around aren't going to see more reasonable situations on that sort of thing. It honestly wouldn't bother me as much though if they were sticking with the "most stuff is in an event first, then goes to the cash shop" mentality that they have had in the past, but we're seeing more and more released directly to the Mogstation.....

[savageink]

I ve seen outfits going for 20-30 dollars on f2p cash shops. black desert for one. tera you can pay big or buy rng boxes. swtor is similar.

[Alleo]

I ve seen outfits going for 20-30 dollars on f2p cash shops. black desert for one. tera you can pay big or buy rng boxes. swtor is similar.

Yet games like Black desert online need this money to even continue to exist. Still all the costumes in black desert are really detailed and have way more parts than the new outfit. For the price of around 30 € you get a headpiece, body clothes, shoes and a weapon! You can buy the complete set without the weapon for way less and you can even buy each part of the costume separate too. Yet we, who play female characters and want Aymerics hair have to pay for a whole outfit. So a FtP MMO is way less harsh in their cash shop even though they need it to survive than FF14. And if I remember it right you can buy these things through ingame currency exchange too (not 100% sure about that).

Lets look at a direct competitor: WoW. They have 41 items in the cash shop (the game itself, subscription, 13 pets, 10 mounts, 3 helmets, 3 packets and 9 services) so you can say it has around 26 items in there since the packets are just a combination of some stuff. All pets costs the same and are not bound to account and other than one mount, all are priced the same too. The one that is a bit higher has the feature that you can summon the same mount for other members in your group too for the amount of 20 minutes. The cash shop is there since 2013.

Well it took me some time to get the numbers of stuff in the mog station since its just so much, so numbers may vary: Without any services we have around 250 items in the cash shop. 113 are seasonal items but for someone new those are still kinda forced items since they cant get them ingame in any way. We have 36 costumes, 6 mounts, 16 pets, wedding, 113 seasonal items, 45 housing items, 18 colors, 7 emotes, 6 chocobo equipment and 1 orchestrion roll. Other than the pets the prices are not the same for each category. The cash shop itself seems to be there since 2014 (?).

One can say that all mounts in our cash shop are cheaper than the ones in WoW but the mogry one really gets close to it and most of the other ones in our cash shops are re-skins and character bound. Thus if you have like 3 twinks and wants it on each one you will get a higher price than WoW. Our pets are cheaper too and are also the only ones that have the same price tag.

So really comparing those two games makes our cash shop looks worse. They have way less items than the FF14 one and it even started one year earlier than ours. Even if we take away all the seasonal stuff we will still be over the amount that they have. But we should not take that away since new players will never have the chance to get them ingame so its a 100% cash shop item for them. And in their cash shop you will have one price for a whole category, only one mount differs from the prices of the other mounts since it has an additional feature. So even if they a bit more expensive than our prices they have way less items, everything is for all accounts and the prices dont vary so much in each category.


@Mature: No I will not stop since simply not buying it will not tell them everything. We are customers and have the right to voice our opinion. Just because you like it this way does not mean that others will and telling them to stop because you just can simply ignore a thread is not really that good. Nobody is forcing you to read this thread you know .

[Ama_Hamada]

Is this nonsense still going? God get a grip and move on.

You want it? Open your wallet and PAY FOR IT... Too expensive? DO NOT PAY FOR IT

this stuff is NOT required for you to play the game.

SE keeps overcharging because people with money to throw away can. This hurts those that do want it but can't afford the pricing. In the end they would make more money selling it cheaper for more sales, the high pricing just hurts everyone while giving people negative feelings to the company (will hurt them in the future)

Yet games like Black desert online need this money to even continue to exist. Still all the costumes in black desert are really detailed and have way more parts than the new outfit. For the price of around 30 € you get a headpiece, body clothes, shoes and a weapon! You can buy the complete set without the weapon for way less and you can even buy each part of the costume separate too. Yet we, who play female characters and want Aymerics hair have to pay for a whole outfit. So a FtP MMO is way less harsh in their cash shop even though they need it to survive than FF14. And if I remember it right you can buy these things through ingame currency exchange too (not 100%).

Lets look at a direct competitor: WoW. They have 41 items in the cash shop (the game itself, subcription, 13 pets, 10 mounts, 3 helmets, 3 pakets and 9 services) so you can say it has around 26 items in there since the packets are just a combination of some stuff. All pets costs the same and are not bound to account and other then one mount all are priced the same too. The one that is a bit higher has the feature that you can summon the same mount for other members in your group too for the amount of 20 minutes. Its there since 2013.

Well it took me some time to get the numbers of stuff in the mog station since its just so much, so numbers may vary: Without any services we have around 250 items in the cash shop. 113 are saisonal items but for someone new those are still kinda forced items since they cant get them ingame in any way. We have 36 costumes, 6 mounts, 16 pets, wedding, 113 saisonal items, 45 housing items, 18 colors, 7 emotes, 6 chocobo equipment and 1 orchestrion roll. Other than the pets the prices are not the same for each category. The cash shop itself seems to be there since 2014 (?).

One can say that all mounts in our cash shop are cheaper than the ones in WoW but the mogry one really gets close to it and most of the other ones in our cash shops are re-skins and character bound. Thus if you have like 3 twinks and wants it on each one you will get a higher price than WoW. Our pets are cheaper too and are also the only ones that have the same price tag.

So really comparing those two games really makes our cash shop looks really worse. They have way less items than the mog one (and well our customes are nearly as much as they have as a whole) and it even started one year earlier than ours. Even if we take away all the saisonal stuff we will still be over the amount that they have. But we should not take that away since new players will never have the chance to get them ingame so its a 100% cash shop item for them.


@Mature: No I will not stop since simply not buying it will not tell them everything. We are customers and have the right to voice our opinion. Just because you like it this way does not mean that others will and telling them to stop because you just can simply ignore a thread is not really that good. Nobody is forcing you to read this thread you know .

You forgot the biggest mog shop abuse, bloating inventory and selling us inventory rental for double our sub.

[JunseiKei]

Yet games like Black desert online need this money to even continue to exist. Still all the costumes in black desert are really detailed and have way more parts than the new outfit. For the price of around 30 € you get a headpiece, body clothes, shoes and a weapon! You can buy the complete set without the weapon for way less and you can even buy each part of the costume separate too. Yet we, who play female characters and want Aymerics hair have to pay for a whole outfit. So a FtP MMO is way less harsh in their cash shop even though they need it to survive than FF14. And if I remember it right you can buy these things through ingame currency exchange too (not 100% sure about that).

Ugh. $50 for an outfit if you want the whole thing and do not want underwear that will bleed through it obnoxiously. Tied to one character only that cannot be changed. In a game that actively incentivizes you to have multiple characters. To gain effects that are very pay to win (maid outfit being one of the biggest offenders). Being able to buy separate pieces is nice, but you're pretty much required to charge a minimum of $10 worth of pearls, increasing in increments of only $10 and items set at odd prices that often lead you to overcharging. Sitting on the market board is obnoxious- that's pretty much the only thing you'll be doing for hours, as almost any kind of cash shop item is almost immediately bought and you cannot pre-order them.

Pick your poison. Neither of them are desirable.

As for Aymeric's hair, I'll chalk it up to the Empress of the Mogstation deciding that selling the hair alone, despite being usable on females too, would not be profitable if it were a stand-alone item. No idea what additional coding it would need, or funding, that would lead to that decision. I have no experience coding nor do I know how SE sets up their items.

[savageink]

TL DR.

You are responding to a sentence that was a response to a statement that said f2p games all had cheaper outfits. They don't. I can't believe people are still tilting at this windmill. 90ish percent of the crap on the store is from seasonal and regional events. Ama_Hamada is the only one arguing about things that are obviously messed up. Paying for inventory space is a crime, they need to fix the storage system. My only concern with buying stuff from the store is that alot of it is not account wide. Other than that buy it or don't. You still won't have any place to store it. :P