SCH concern on DPS. Healers dps comparison

[Sighearth]

So with all the WHM hate ( which I agree with it) we are overshadowing the SCH huge DPS nerf.
Lets see what we lost:
Miasma2, Bio1 and aero

What we have nerfed:
Shadow Flare now cant be up 100% of time
We cant weave 3 energy drains now due the lack of instant gcds, so we have to clip a lot our gcd.
Bane now is almost crap. 20% less dmg to each additional target + the fact that we have 1 less dot to spread with it.
No longer 10% more dmg with Cleric Stance full time
10% Mp recovery from aetherflow only.

So we have 2 facts that are concerning to me as a SCH main:

1: DPS have direct-hit, Tanks have tenacity and we have piety..
It seems to me, that YoshiP wants the healers dps to become less and less impactful and the DPS gap is increasing.
2: SCH on AOE
Can you imagine using 2 dots, shadow flare, bane and nothing else to do but spam broil2 over and over in a dungeon?

I'm not even counting the fact that our Shields pale to AST Noct. Our Aoe heals pale to both and even our fairy got 50 potency nerf on her embrace. What do have as our identity? being able to dps andd heal efficiently.
Do we?
Lets see the numbers (potency/min or 24 GCDs).
WHM:
aero3 x 2,5 -> 2,5 * 370 = 925
Assize x 1 = 300
StoneIV x 21,5 = 5590
WHM total => 5590 + 925 + 300 = 6815
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SCH: 24 GCDs
Bio2 x 2 -> 350 * 2 = 700
Miasma x 2,5 -> 300 * 2,5 = 750
Energy Drain x 3 -> 150 * 3 = 450
1 x Shadow flare = 250
Broil2 x 19,5 -> 230 * 19,5 = 4485
SCH total => 6635
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AST 24 GCDS
Combust2 x 2 -> 450 * 2 = 900
Lord x1 = 300
Malefic3 x 22 -> 22 * 210 = 4620
Earthly Star x1 -> 200
Total: 6020

So, our dps is worse than WHM ( this was also true for HW) but WHMs were capped by their mana, making SCH the sustained DPS King. With the new WHM mana skill and mana regen over all, this problem is over. With the WHM being backlashed by the community, its huge the probability of WHM getting a buff. While the AST is cemented in the healing meta we lost our identity. (nerfed) Embrace yourselves fellow SCHs

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

Maybe this is their not so subtle nudge that the healer dps meta needs to change?

[Starflake]

We do have Chain Stratagem though and Astrologion has cards. Astrologion having cards, in particular Balance, probably is the highest raid DPS healer then followed by SCH and then White Mage. I'd be fine if they just gave us Bio back and a decent Bane.

[Gemina]

Maybe this is their not so subtle nudge that the healer dps meta needs to change?

You think?

I think some of SCHs DPS will be given back once we've been taught our lesson

[Zojha]

Maybe this is their not so subtle nudge that the healer dps meta needs to change?

What does reducing the numbers change about the meta?

They could nerf the DPS by 50% and it would still exist if you'd have spare time and resources from healing. If that's truly what it's supposed to be, then they're not just idiots, they're also learning resistant idiots, because that approach has already failed on tanks.

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

Snip.

Speaking of tanks, actually, I find it hilarious tank dps gets nerfed, and no tanks actually seem to care, but healers blow a gasket when they get nerfed.

[AsakuraVN]

I don't think nerfing AoE dmg has anything to do with the meta. This is just mainly for 4man dungeon content or some trashy mid raid tier that doesn't really matter much. Just that it looks like an oversight to me because they nerfed Bane for SMN & removed BlizII for the new cross role system. So we have nothing to spam in AoE with except Broil.

However, shadow flare doesn't concern me that much. Some guy did the math on SMN & turns out it's maybe a dps gain since you don't have to spend 2 GCDs every 30s to recast it, & can use that time for other dps skills while weaving in SF instead.

Also healer gears are melded with mostly acc to hit the acc cap, & since it's no longer needed, you can spend all those slots on crit/ss/det now.

[Poisonous]

Why is this a problem?

SCH main, I'm happy for the change. SCH doesn't need to be OP at everything and DPS are being made more responsible for team DPS.

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

Why is this a problem.

Harder for SCH to carry subpar dps now.

Which is good.

I agree. I'm looking forward to being able to play seriously more often.

[Poisonous]

What does reducing the numbers change about the meta?

They could nerf the DPS by 50% and it would still exist if you'd have spare time and resources from healing. If that's truly what it's supposed to be, then they're not just idiots, they're also learning resistant idiots, because that approach has already failed on tanks.

Healers wanting to dps if they have spare time and resources isn't what anyone is talking about. The meta is that healers have to push dps to a certain amount well past that, and optimize for dps.