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    Quote Originally Posted by Berethos View Post
    By the way, it took 4.5 years after the addition of transmog (added in December 2011) to WoW for their appearance catalog to actually be implemented (added in July 2016), despite it being pretty much a day one request as a response (their original approach was Void Storage as a way of holding on to gear you wanted to use for glamour).
    Once again: WoW is not the only MMO with an appearance log and many other MMOs have been able to implement it much earlier on in their life cycles. WoW added their appearance log AFTER it had become hugely popular in other MMOs. Stop pointing to the time it took WoW to add one as some excuse.

    Their concerns are BS, by the way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naunet View Post
    Once again: WoW is not the only MMO with an appearance log and many other MMOs have been able to implement it much earlier on in their life cycles. WoW added their appearance log AFTER it had become hugely popular in other MMOs. Stop pointing to the time it took WoW to add one as some excuse.
    I know of only one other AAA MMO that has a similar large scale appearance catalog, that being GW2, and quite frankly they had some of the best talent working on their backend (as evidenced by their mega-server tech as well as their ability to patch while the game is live and simply require a quick restart of the client to apply the changes)...and my point with the time it took WoW (and GW2 in development, which took 5 years to come release) was that it's not an easy thing to put together on a larger scale.

    Other games tend to use what are essentially costume panels. You can save 1-8 outfits (depending on the game) by essentially equipping a gear piece in that slot on the cosmetic panel menu, then choosing to display that piece of gear over another. This approach is the more common approach. None of those games simply save the appearance in a catalog for you to use later.

    So, given how infrequently the catalog has been implemented, a logical discussion is going to look at not only which games have added it but also how and when it was added. That it took 4.5 years for WoW to actually implement it is absolutely relevant, as the difficulty of designing and implementing such a system is relevant to the discussion...assuming it's feasible (could technically be added, but ends up with some nasty side effects, which means it's possible but not feasible) or possible at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Berethos View Post
    I know of only one other AAA MMO that has a similar large scale appearance catalog
    With out digging too much other than GW2 and WoW, I can think of Wildstar, DC Universe Online, SWTOR (clunky but has a ton of collections). I'm sure I'm missing some but I don't play every game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Berethos View Post
    I know of only one other AAA MMO that has a similar large scale appearance catalog, that being GW2
    Rift, WildStar, Blade and Soul, SWTOR, DCUO, and I think Champions though I'm not sure.

    [edit] Oops, meant to edit and add, not double post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naunet View Post
    Rift, WildStar, Blade and Soul, SWTOR, DCUO, and I think Champions though I'm not sure.

    [edit] Oops, meant to edit and add, not double post.
    WoW added one too - it's pretty spiffy!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Berethos View Post
    I know of only one other AAA MMO that has a similar large scale appearance catalog
    Uh, most of them do now actually

    and none have a system as messy as this one
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