Alternative solution to glamour log

[Arutan]

I was just thinking about it but, all the Mako PvP gear, once bought at least once, can be rebought from the Calamity Salvager for a reasonnable amount of gils.
What if every special gear we loot, mostly dungeon, trial and raid ones, could be rebought from that NPC once we obtained them once?
It wouldn't harm the game since all of those gear are untradable. Ok maybe it would make infinite amount of GC seal as long as we got gil. Well then do something so that when we bought the gear from that NPC it isn't exchangeable for GC seals.
This way people would still need to do content to get them by looting or token exchange, but instead of "Damn i have no more place for my glamour!" we would have "Nice, I can get rid of it and buy it later on if I wanna use it as glamour!".
'cause obviously, Yoshida saying "doing a glamour log is like increasing inventory slot", we all know it's false as hell. How 40 more slot would allow us to store the 200+ new gear they will create over StormBlood alongside the thousand of gear already existing? Event if they keep increasing the inventory size, the number of gear keep increasing too, and the number of useless token we have to keep and hundreds of materials too.

For people asking the source it is a Q&A in a french article made during the Press Tour which the embargo ended the may 31th

JOL : Les mirages sont un aspect très populaire de Final Fantasy XIV. Vous avez annonce une augmentation de la taille des inventaires, mais cela pourrait ne pas suffire. Avez-vous envisager un système permettant de conserver les mirages sans devoir garder la pièce d’équipement dans un inventaire ? Comme un catalogue en quelques sortes.

NY : Il y a deux raisons qui nous empêchent de faire cela.

Cote serveur, sauvegarder toutes les données nécessaires reviendrait au même que d'augmenter la taille de l'inventaire. Et si nous implantions ce système cote client, non seulement vous perdriez vos données si vous changiez de plateforme, mais en plus il y aurait un risque de triche car ces données pourraient être modifiées par les joueurs.

De plus, si nous permettions aux joueurs de conserver leur mirages, cela pourrait affecter l’économie du jeu car les pièces perdraient très vite de la valeur s'il suffisait de ne les obtenir qu'une fois.

Nous pourrions peut être envisager d'ajouter un historique des mirages pour aider les joueurs a choisir quelles pièces garder.

Translation (by me)

JOL: Glamours are a famous aspect of FFXIV. You annunced an augmentation of inventory's size, but this could not be enough. Have you considered a system allowing us to conserve the glamours without having to keep the gear in the inventory? Like a log for example.

Yoshida: There's two reasons keeping us from doing it.

Server side, saving all the necessary datas would be the same as increasing inventory size. And if we were setting up this system client side, you would lose all your datas when changing platform and there would be a risk to cheat because some player would edit the datas.

Moreover, if we were enabling players to keep their glamour, this could affect the game's economy because gears would fastly lose their value as you would need to obtain them only once.

We could consider adding a glamour historic to help people choose the gears to keep.

http://www.jeuxonline.info/article/1...-naoki-yoshida

[Nix]

That's actually a really neat idea I wouldn't mind it! I craft a lot so I hurt for inventory space and I haven't sprung for new retainers (because then I'd still end up being starved for space. . . ) This would really help me offload a lot of old gear that I can't store in the armoire

[Kaurie]

I am not sure about everyone, but my biggest issue with the current glamour system is that it is disorganized, and requires an excessive amount of items. This doesn't solve either of those things.

It does, however, solve the issue of inventory space - at least.

Your idea ain't bad, but it's nothing compared an actual glamour log imo.

[Dustytome]

I'm guessing there's a limit to how much they can list per window on that npc, just imagine how many categories they would have to add for that much gear. It's much more practical and user friendly to create a new interface for glamour.

[Arutan]

Your idea ain't bad, but it's nothing compared an actual glamour log imo.

It's much more practical and user friendly to create a new interface for glamour.

Yeah but Yoshida stated during the Media Event that they will definitely not be doing a glamour log, that's why I'm proposing an alternative because this has to be solved a way or another.

[Kaurie]

Yeah but Yoshida stated during the Media Event that they will definitely not be doing a glamour log, that's why I'm proposing an alternative because this has to be solved a way or another.

For sure, my only issue is that I'd rather this be a bigger problem, so that the devs eventually put effort into fixing it properly. Band-aid solutions will result in apathy from the devs on the subject, and the issue prolonged.

[Dustytome]

Yeah but Yoshida stated during the Media Event that they will definitely not be doing a glamour log, that's why I'm proposing an alternative because this has to be solved a way or another.

Do you have a source for that? I don't recall seeing anything about that, but I also did a lot of skimming.

[Naunet]

Yeah but Yoshida stated during the Media Event that they will definitely not be doing a glamour log, that's why I'm proposing an alternative because this has to be solved a way or another.

Quote? @_@

I can't believe he would be that tone deaf... okay, maybe I can, but I would hope he isn't...

[alimdia]

Yeah but Yoshida stated during the Media Event that they will definitely not be doing a glamour log, that's why I'm proposing an alternative because this has to be solved a way or another.

That's not what he said, spreading misinformation isn't nice.

Yoshida never speaks in "definitive", because that's not a thing in game development, he just reiterated a glamour log is low priority.

R: Players enjoy keeping many glamour sets which they switch between frequently. Are there any plans on making a "glamour log" system where obtained pieces of gear are glamorable without having the physical item, like the WoW transmog log?
Y: *Yoshida thinks for a bit* When asked is it physically possible, it’s possible. It’s not impossible but there’s so many different things that we do want to in terms of UI that I’m afraid the priority isn’t as high on our list. Leading up to 4.0, we are setting up the UI so that each job has their own sort of user interface and there are many different tasks that are on our priority list so it might take a bit more time before we can address it.

Since all the UI and inventory related things will be solved with 4.0-4.x I'm hoping they can consider it for 5.0.

[Lycieus]

That's not what he said, spreading misinformation isn't nice.

Yoshida never speaks in "definitive", because that's not a thing in game development, he just reiterated a glamour log is low priority.



Since all the UI and inventory related things will be solved with 4.0-4.x I'm hoping they can consider it for 5.0.

I will have long since stopped playing if it takes that long.