Save Scholar: Add one last Class to the game.

[Rawrz]

Call it Tacticians or Academias. Its unlocked at level 30 when your Arcanist hits 30 and you do the first Scholar questline. It would retain most of what an arcanist has dps wise. Traits would seperate the roles. Academias would be healers with a base mind stat. Please just cut the tether from Smn. What benefitted us before, a diverse movepool with a large amount of mitigation and utility, has since crippled us into a broil II spam of a clsss. Balance Smns appropriately but dont just rip fundamental spells from Sch, just because you feel they work toowell on SMN.

[Len]

I'm not sure that I agree entirely.

Both Summoner & Scholar needs their Arcanist shackles broken, and I'm hoping that's what happens for 5.0; complete abolishment of the class system and the complete reworkings of SMN & SCH.

The experiment of multiple jobs branching off from the same class was a complete failure, especially when you consider how they've had to tip-toe around balancing certain skills.

[Hamada]

I'm not sure that I agree entirely.

Both Summoner & Scholar needs their Arcanist shackles broken, and I'm hoping that's what happens for 5.0; complete abolishment of the class system and the complete reworkings of SMN & SCH.

The experiment of multiple jobs branching off from the same class was a complete failure, especially when you consider how they've had to tip-toe around balancing certain skills.

This, SMN should not be dot based, SCH should not be dot based dps healer its annoying. (plus the stat issues) please have plans to split them off to give true balance. I am tried of my fairy summoning be a carbuncle icon.

[Rawrz]

This, SMN should not be dot based, SCH should not be dot based dps healer its annoying. (plus the stat issues) please have plans to split them off to give true balance. I am tried of my fairy summoning be a carbuncle icon.

I love my dot based healer. Its synergy is undeniable with a fairy. Stopping a GCD to heal, is a much smaller DPS loss than if we were to have to spam Broil II every GCD to maintain DPS.

[Hamada]

I love my dot based healer. Its synergy is undeniable with a fairy. Stopping a GCD to heal, is a much smaller DPS loss than if we were to have to spam Broil II every GCD to maintain DPS.

talking about the Dot based DPS, not the healing being like a dot ( cuz fairy healing is like a hot/dot.. whatever)

The spells SCH and SMN have now are more inline of black mage spells, they don't... really fit the job or feel.. For me it felt it was shoe horned to try to experiment with the 2 jobs from 1 class split. It might of worked out fine if it had better balance and better lore relating to each other but I really feel they are split jobs. I hate how the prime source of damage is the same play style ( dot and bane) I do agree that SCH def should have a different way of DPS then the other healers but I feel we lack aoe damage in later levels and we are losing blizzard II. So how come we are just on broil and broil II? that does not match the core... why can't we have some DPS that has to be used with our fairy casting together?

[Belhi]

There seems to be some disagreement over Bane by the way. In the JP media tour Bane wasn't nerfed at all so it isn't clear which is the accurate tooltip for launch.

Sorry, but just to be clear, what is SCH loosing? I though it was maintaining pretty much the same kit it currently had.

[Shurrikhan]

I still don't know why people cite problems with XIV's implementation of the class > job system as conceptual flaws to the idea of having a broader opening class to a later, more focused advanced class (or "job").

Just because a class allows you to level to the point that a job begins, or is somehow attached by name, doesn't even mean that it needs to directly transfer a single skill or trait into the branching job, nor that its traits or trait-based mechanics would have to be limited to what the class produces...

Alternatively, take the latest cross-role system. There's nothing to prevent the PLD, DRK, and WAR versions of the 20% for 20s per 90s mitigation buff (Rampart) from having a different name and animation on each.

Why the false ultimatums?

[Berethos]

Both Summoner & Scholar needs their Arcanist shackles broken, and I'm hoping that's what happens for 5.0; complete abolishment of the class system and the complete reworkings of SMN & SCH.

The only jobs the abolishment of the class system would actually impact are Summoner and Scholar - for all intents and purposes, once 4.0 hits it's gone for the other jobs as they will simply level to 30, do a quest and equip an item, and then continue on, with the class system largely being a nice addition of lore and flavor but - outside of equipping the crystal - will function mechanically as if they were leveling that job the entire time.

[NovaLevossida]

If anything, they need to get rid of the classes in a future expansion, do a massive rework, change the current SMN into a new necromancer job, implement a proper summoner, and give scholar more of an identity apart from the old SMN.

[Texa]

They only change I'd like to see for scholar is for it not to sound like I'm throwing a box of windchimes down the stairs whenever I need to spam succor for multi-room wide aoes.

Scholar is otherwise ok, nowhere near as busted as WHM for stormblood. I'll take it.