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    If nothing else, it would be very bad design.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taika View Post
    If nothing else, it would be very bad design.
    You're saying it would be bad design, that each job is situational, at different tiers of content, at its release for the 2% of the playerbase,

    but in time all jobs become viable for the rest of the 98%?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniolaut View Post
    You're saying it would be bad design, that each job is situational, at different tiers of content, at its release for the 2% of the playerbase,

    but in time all jobs become viable for the rest of the 98%?
    For a piece of content to be completely un-doable by a job? Yes, it is bad design. There is a difference between "not the meta" and "impossible".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aramina View Post
    For a piece of content to be completely un-doable by a class? Yes, it is bad design. There is a difference between "not the meta" and "impossible".
    Ok I should rephrase it.

    For the meta to get their clears in the first week or so. Just like it has always been. They didnt take paladin, but paladin could in fact clear savage. Just not to that extreme. (in so much that it would take a group with paladin an additional month or more to get a clear. That is bad design yes. Hence why they fixed it.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniolaut View Post
    Ok I should rephrase it.

    For the meta to get their clears in the first week or so. Just like it has always been. They didnt take paladin, but paladin could in fact clear savage. Just not to that extreme. (in so much that it would take a group with paladin an additional month or more to get a clear. That is bad design yes. Hence why they fixed it.)
    So... what's the question then? If it is already what has been done then what are we what-if'ing?

    edit: Unless you are saying WHM should be happy because they could get their clear earlier? Still bad because no one wants to be the worst at all these things except this one little tiny niche (that the odds show is never going to be relevant to them anyway).

    edit again: For the record, I am not saying they WOULD (because as pointed out, WHM no longer even has the best healer going for it), just in a hypothetical situation if they were would that be enough.. and clearly I say no
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniolaut View Post
    You're saying it would be bad design, that each job is situational, at different tiers of content, at its release for the 2% of the playerbase,

    but in time all jobs become viable for the rest of the 98%?
    Yes, it would be a bad design decision to require certain jobs to be able to beat content. It would also exclude more players from this content since static members would be expected to have certain (several!) jobs to change between fights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taika View Post
    If nothing else, it would be very bad design.
    This, you shouldn't leave out other jobs. If WHM is needed and the only thing that can heal though damage, it leaves the other 2 healers out. If it is like now where all 3 healers keep up np, then WHM is dead with what we are shown, that simple
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