Alternative solution to glamour log

[Arutan]

For people asking the source it is a Q&A in a french article made during the Press Tour which the embargo ended the may 31th

JOL : Les mirages sont un aspect très populaire de Final Fantasy XIV. Vous avez annonce une augmentation de la taille des inventaires, mais cela pourrait ne pas suffire. Avez-vous envisager un système permettant de conserver les mirages sans devoir garder la pièce d’équipement dans un inventaire ? Comme un catalogue en quelques sortes.

NY : Il y a deux raisons qui nous empêchent de faire cela.

Cote serveur, sauvegarder toutes les données nécessaires reviendrait au même que d'augmenter la taille de l'inventaire. Et si nous implantions ce système cote client, non seulement vous perdriez vos données si vous changiez de plateforme, mais en plus il y aurait un risque de triche car ces données pourraient être modifiées par les joueurs.

De plus, si nous permettions aux joueurs de conserver leur mirages, cela pourrait affecter l’économie du jeu car les pièces perdraient très vite de la valeur s'il suffisait de ne les obtenir qu'une fois.

Nous pourrions peut être envisager d'ajouter un historique des mirages pour aider les joueurs a choisir quelles pièces garder.

Translation (by me)

JOL: Glamours are a famous aspect of FFXIV. You annunced an augmentation of inventory's size, but this could not be enough. Have you considered a system allowing us to conserve the glamours without having to keep the gear in the inventory? Like a log for example.

Yoshida: There's two reasons keeping us from doing it.

Server side, saving all the necessary datas would be the same as increasing inventory size. And if we were setting up this system client side, you would lose all your datas when changing platform and there would be a risk to cheat because some player would edit the datas.

Moreover, if we were enabling players to keep their glamour, this could affect the game's economy because gears would fastly lose their value as you would need to obtain them only once.

We could consider adding a glamour historic to help people choose the gears to keep.

http://www.jeuxonline.info/article/1...-naoki-yoshida

[Naunet]

For people asking the source it is a Q&A in a french article made during the Press Tour which the embargo ended the may 31th



Translation (by me)


http://www.jeuxonline.info/article/1...-naoki-yoshida

This is... awful. Yoshida, no. Just... no. I refuse to believe your devs are that incompetent that they can't figure out how to design a glamour log when many other MMOs manage this with absolutely zero issue.

Also to address his other points...

People are not purchasing million+ gil crafted items to glamour them once and then throwing away the item. THEY ALREADY ONLY BUY THINGS ONCE. Not having a glamour log is literally only HARMING your playerbase. It strains our inventory and retainers to the point of bursting. It adds stress and frustration as we try to navigate the overly convoluted process of glamour and accessing inventories. The limit of what we can store also puts a steady pressure to ultimately NOT engage in content. I literally have NO motivation to run content right now because I cannot store any more effin' armors for glamour.

To put this in perspective, I resubbed to WoW about 5 months ago after being away for 4 years. I've not even bought Legion yet. But I've remained subbed and happy just slowly farming up old armor sets and things to unlock in the transmog log. If you want to maintain subscriptions, encouraging people to farm armor appearances is THE way to do it. There is a reason your players say "Glamour is the real endgame" - because it is the CORE motivation that keeps players going back into content long after they've mastered it. However, what point is there in doing that when I cannot actually store any of the potential armors that I could get? Why would I ever want to go in and farm Dun Scaith or whatever when I have no room for the gear? Why bother with farming Alexander, or buying the numerous crafted items? Why bother making any Mogstation purchases? I have no room to store any of it, so I don't do it!!!

[savageink]

I literally have NO motivation to run content right now because I cannot store any more effin' armors for glamour.

To put this in perspective, I resubbed to WoW about 5 months ago after being away for 4 years. I've not even bought Legion yet. But I've remained subbed and happy just slowly farming up old armor sets and things to unlock in the transmog log. If you want to maintain subscriptions, encouraging people to farm armor appearances is THE way to do it. There is a reason your players say "Glamour is the real endgame" - because it is the CORE motivation that keeps players going back into content long after they've mastered it. However, what point is there in doing that when I cannot actually store any of the potential armors that I could get? Why would I ever want to go in and farm Dun Scaith or whatever when I have no room for the gear? Why bother with farming Alexander, or buying the numerous crafted items? Why bother making any Mogstation purchases? I have no room to store any of it, so I don't do it!!!

Absolultely! It's like no matter how many times we try to point out that people like collecting things, not using them and throwing them out, they just seem to stick their fingers in their ears and go "Lalalala!" Then a few months later they add to basic inventory which fixes nothing but shuts some people up for a few weeks until it's full again. My armor literally takes up half my armory and half my on hand inventory. Once Stormblood starts, my armor will probably have enough space to move into the armory but then new stuff comes. My 2 retainers (i refuse to pay for more) are full of crafting and house and special items that they haven't put in the chest for no known reason. Since I'm not hardcore on crafting and only do it when I feel like it, I can live without a crafting bank, but I feel sorry for crafters. A real glam log, though, would fix every storage problem I have, now that Apartments are getting an item bump.

Anyway, the collector urge is what drives people to go back in to get the full set of armor, and there is a significant number of people who want to collect them all. Ignoring that is a disservice to the players.

[Berethos]

Ignoring that is a disservice to the players.

Unless you count not implementing it as the sole criteria for not ignoring it, they haven't.

They just haven't given the answer certain individuals have been fishing for. Unless you buy into a conspiracy theory that they are doing this just to make people spend extra money on retainers, then we ultimately have to accept that they will work toward the solutions that they can feasibly implement and continue to provide constructive feedback on the kinds of systems/features we want to see added...

Instead of immediately accusing them of excuses and lying and shady tactics designed solely to make a buck at our expense, as some posters here are wont to do.

[savageink]

Unless you count not implementing it as the sole criteria for not ignoring it, they haven't.

They just haven't given the answer certain individuals have been fishing for. Unless you buy into a conspiracy theory that they are doing this just to make people spend extra money on retainers, then we ultimately have to accept that they will work toward the solutions that they can feasibly implement and continue to provide constructive feedback on the kinds of systems/features we want to see added...

Instead of immediately accusing them of excuses and lying and shady tactics designed solely to make a buck at our expense, as some posters here are wont to do.

Nah. I don't really think think the retainers are some big conspiracy. I think it's just kind of a lazy solution. I think they have a certain set of priorities and we haven't given them enough of a push to find a solution. I've worked in Japanese companies, they are glacial and you have to get everyone behind something to get things moving. So, I also see nothing wrong with people talking about this over and over again. It's the only way it will get noticed.