Samurai Discussion

[Yorumi]

I think the only time you would use meditate is basically when you can't hit the boss because they are not on the map or there are no adds because you can't move while meditating if you do it cancels it and it will go on cooldown.

Boss invulnerable periods are obvious but this one is at least easier to figure out. Can you get more potency from the keniki meditate generates or 15 seconds of auto-attacks. We'll need to get in the game to see that but it'll be known quickly.

[Remus]

Boss invulnerable periods are obvious but this one is at least easier to figure out. Can you get more potency from the keniki meditate generates or 15 seconds of auto-attacks. We'll need to get in the game to see that but it'll be known quickly.

Yeah there is certain information we can't get yet. Also because people mentioned Kaiten not working on Higanbana I moved it next to Kasha instead (I couldn't think of where else I could place it). I also moved one of the Kaitens next to Guren. (edit: nevermind seems guren is ability I will change it back).

Hazake -> Jinpu -> Gekko(rear) -> Higanbana ->
Hakaze -> Shifu -> (Kaiten)Kasha(side) -> Hazake -> (Shinten)Yukikaze ->
Hazake -> Jinpu -> Gekko(rear) -> Hagakure ->
(Meikyo Shisui)Kasha(side) -> (Guren)Gekko(rear) -> Yukikaze ->
(Kaiten)Midare Setsugekka -> Hakaze -> (Shinten)Jinpu -> Gekko(rear) ->
(Shinten)Hakaze -> Shifu -> Kasha(side) -> (Shinten)Hakaze -> Yukikaze ->
(Kaiten)Midare Setsugekka

I did the calculation of how much kenki and by the end of this rotation you would have 10 remaining.

edit: The calculation for kenki will be the same but some numbers would move around.

5+5+10+5+5-20+10+5-25+10+5+5+10+60+10-20-50+10+10+5-25+5+10-25+5+5+10-25+5+10-20 = 10

Yay addition and subtraction...

[Yorumi]

I also moved one of the Kaitens next to Guren. (edit: nevermind seems guren is ability I will change it back).

Oh hell that makes me sad. A 1200 potency attack would have been absolutely awesome.

[Remus]

Oh hell that makes me sad. A 1200 potency attack would have been absolutely awesome.

It would have been awesome but pretty overpowered at the same time! Also I don't know how I would feel about it because you would only be able to kaiten + guren every 2 minutes so not very satisfying seeing only a few times a fight haha.

I mean in a level 64 dungeon a samurai crit for 22k with midare setsugekka.

[Yorumi]

It would have been awesome but pretty overpowered at the same time! Also I don't know how I would feel about it because you would only be able to kaiten + guren every 2 minutes so not very satisfying seeing only a few times a fight haha.

I mean in a level 64 dungeon a samurai crit for 22k with midare setsugekka.

Midare is going to be fun with a properly coordinating party. Kaiten is obvious with every midare. But imagine balance card, rdm's embolden(10%), and brd/mch phy vuln. And with things like meikyo shisui and guren you could easily do two kaiten midares and gurren under all that while only losing 2% from embolden on the last skill.

I think in a pre-made that would be a good combo but the question is would it be reliable in pugs? I have already encountered enough ninjas who don't Goad when you need it lol

Brd/mch can also give tp more easily now, and don't forget sen skills don't use tp so there's at least one gcd every few skills that won't cost tp and give you a touch of tp regen. I know you don't always have those but still I think with invigorate you could go a pretty long way even using the extra tp.

[Remus]

Midare is going to be fun with a properly coordinating party. Kaiten is obvious with every midare. But imagine balance card, rdm's embolden(10%), and brd/mch phy vuln. And with things like meikyo shisui and guren you could easily do two kaiten midares and gurren under all that while only losing 2% from embolden on the last skill.

Oh don't worry I know all about the buffs. Imagine if you got enhanced balance(30%?), sch crit buff on mob(20%), Monk with Brotherhood(5% damage increase), RDM with embolden(10% physical damage) and finally Bard with the extra crit (3%) and vuln and if you are running the 3 melee comp DRG with Battle Litany(15%)/Dragon Sight (5% damage). Just thinking about it gets me excited. The damage that SAM will produce is insane.

[Arkenne]

Yay addition...

Master this job and you can be an accountant O_o!