DRK is going to be Nerfed in Stormblood

[Hierro]

Are you also taking into consideration the effective MP gained by Darkside not constantly eating away MP when you say current MP gain is as good as it gets?

You could say we "effectively gain 127 mp" per tick, but we lost the 353 mp from blood price ticks, and it's pretty darn hard to gauge how much MP you can gain by its usage due to varying factors, but the simple matter is we have more things to spend our MP on more frequently, and less tools to address those needs.

[eagledorf]

JP tootip does appear to have a 10% buff to damage taken from Soul Survivor unless famitsu accidentally mixed PVP and PVE. That's about a 1% DPS increase for the party, but factoring in the burst phase it's not at all insignificant.

The text is green, but so is the duration so that's not an indication that it's a PVP effect.

[EusisLandale]

You could say we "effectively gain 127 mp" per tick, but we lost the 353 mp from blood price ticks, and it's pretty darn hard to gauge how much MP you can gain by its usage due to varying factors, but the simple matter is we have more things to spend our MP on more frequently, and less tools to address those needs.

Darkside no longer drains our MP, Blood Weapon has been buffed, Delirium is like an awesome little Ether that also extends said buffed Blood Weapon, Blood Price hasn't gone anywhere for anyone in a position where it would be used they just have to dance a little for it.
We'll have the tools to manage MP and we really don't actually have that many new things to be spending MP on.

[Veritas-Ancora]

Darkside no longer drains our MP, Blood Weapon has been buffed, Delirium is like an awesome little Ether that also extends said buffed Blood Weapon, Blood Price hasn't gone anywhere for anyone in a position where it would be used they just have to dance a little for it.
We'll have the tools to manage MP and we really don't actually have that many new things to be spending MP on.

From what I can tell, we'll be spamming Dark Arts twice as often. Or at least trying to if our bar isn't empty and we need to go back to Grit now.

[Veritas-Ancora]

Why does Grit still cost MP with a need to return to Grit to help restore MP faster?

Lose MP to gain MP, or are we just not stance dancing any longer?

[Claire_Pendragon]

Why does Grit still cost MP with a need to return to Grit to help restore MP faster?

Lose MP to gain MP, or are we just not stance dancing any longer?

With the changes to tanks over all, I would argue they intend to force tanks to stay in tank stance when tanking, and only dropping it for OTing. or at least, try to stick to this more often.
(since people used tank stance more as a CD, rather than the stance for tanking)

[whiteblade89]

Why does Grit still cost MP with a need to return to Grit to help restore MP faster?

Lose MP to gain MP, or are we just not stance dancing any longer?

On the contrary, stance dancing for us might be easier than WAR or PLD. From what I've seen and heard, we don't sacrifice our gauge to stance dance. We are still sacrificing mp to use Grit, but I don't think it will be as punishing for our resources as some might think. Really, we'll just have to wait and see how the job flows once SB hits. I'm excited though.

[aqskerorokero]

With the changes to tanks over all, I would argue they intend to force tanks to stay in tank stance when tanking, and only dropping it for OTing. or at least, try to stick to this more often.
(since people used tank stance more as a CD, rather than the stance for tanking)

Which is a good thing, in Japan there is no such thing as stance dance....only tanks that play tank....

[Claire_Pendragon]

Which is a good thing, in Japan there is no such thing as stance dance....only tanks that play tank....

Interesting to hear.

Ever since I stopped playing with my JP friends from XI, I'm out of the loop on normal JP strategies. (Usually I agree with them, with an occasional disagreement, where I'll find NA player strategies better. Such as the merit PT builds of NA players, and PLDs using cure to heal themselves/build threat in NA PTs in XI.)

But you could argue the same here, as most tanks dont stance dance.

So does that mean we believe its best over all?

[Claymore65]

I'm not certain we're exactly getting a DPS Nerf (between the buffs to Darkside and the new Blood abilities that is going to be hard to calculate), but I am a little disappointed Living Dead and Unleash/Abyssal Drain didn't get looked at. Living Dead is currently a bit too finicky to use in PUG groups, and seemed ripe for some simplification. Unleash and Abyssal Drain serve the same purpose (AOE aggro generators/damage), and could have been adjusted to either give them new utility or simply combine them into one ability, similar to how Stone now "levels up" with traits. Instead, they drastically reduced the potency on Unleash, meaning it will probably just get ignored in favor of Abyssal Drain. Overall, I'm a little underwhelmed by the DRK changes, although the Paladin (and to a lesser extent Warrior) changes look fantastic.