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    Thank you all for the responses

    Thank you all for the responses. Especially those that don't agree. And even more so, the people that took the time to actually read, much less understand my point of view.

    And to those that merely berated me or stated that the gauges are optional and/or you can resize them...Thank you for making my point for me.

    Peace out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by semc View Post
    they won't fix the stated problem they are trying to fix. YoshiP specifically outlines the problem they are trying to fix and why. And then spends about eight minutes explaining how they're going to fix it. But its not going to work, because the problem isn't the HUD.
    You already said it will help some but not others. What is the target playerbase? There are players who have trouble maximizing uptimes on buffs, memorizing rotations, and watching the battlefield at the same time. There is no absolute solution unless the game plays itself to perfection. Is Yoshi selling it for more than it's worth? Possibly, but I don't see the point of this thread when all it does is criticize the intentions of developers trying to ease the burden.

    You said it will help some, so mission accomplished.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurie View Post
    It seems like your argument is that it will help some people, but won't help other people, and because it doesn't help other people, it's a failure.

    If that is the case, then your thread is also a failure. You've managed to convince some people of your point, but others didn't buy into it.
    No, I conceded that it MIGHT help some people after reading their responses to my OP. But hey, what's reading comprehension or understanding that I was looking for counters to my position. Because opinions aren't supposed to be fixed in stone. And if I was so sure of myself, I wouldn't have made a post HERE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by semc View Post
    No, I conceded that it MIGHT help some people after reading their responses to my OP. But hey, what's reading comprehension or understanding that I was looking for counters to my position. Because opinions aren't supposed to be fixed in stone. And if I was so sure of myself, I wouldn't have made a post HERE.
    Has anybody ever told you that you come across as condescending?
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    Quote Originally Posted by semc View Post
    No, I conceded that it MIGHT help some people after reading their responses to my OP. But hey, what's reading comprehension or understanding that I was looking for counters to my position. Because opinions aren't supposed to be fixed in stone. And if I was so sure of myself, I wouldn't have made a post HERE.
    I gave you two direct arguments that you did not address. That said, the post you replied to pointed out a flaw in your logic. You conceded that it might help some people, but that did not change your opinion that it is a failure due to it not helping everyone. It's ironic that you attack my reading comprehension, but then require me to explain the purpose of my post in illustrating your flawed logic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atlas-04 View Post
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    No, I started my OP with the opinion that it wouldn't help ANYONE. But a few people made a decent argument that it would help a few, some, part of the player base, etc. They convinced me that there might be a some portion of the player base that might be large enough affect a change in the disparity in DPS between casual and core players. We'll find out, maybe, if they release the numbers later, post release stating, 'mission accomplished.'
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    Nope, I said that the stated solution won't fix the stated problem they wanted to fix. Not that it won't fix other problems, or of being use to other people for different reasons.
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    @ Kaurie
    Provides feedback as the player adjusts to newly learned skills
    Highlights areas for improvement in team play, when notably underperforming
    Provides feedback to help understand at what point AoE > ST
    As you so pointedly called me out: Fine, lets address this. Yes, this will help some people, it will provide feedback, and will do as stated to provide increased visibility. However, I still have, serious doubts that they will close the 'extreme DPS disparity' by any significant margin, as the given size of the particular demographic that this would actually help is unknown to me, whereas I have personal experience with large numbers of stupid people. So as long as the number of currently derp, but otherwise trainable players who just need a big shiny meter to watch is larger than the demographic of netflix afk'ing/botting/stupid people, then YES, this will fix the problem. There. I said it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greedalox View Post
    Has anybody ever told you that you come across as condescending?
    Every day. Frequently, and without hesitation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by semc View Post
    There. I said it.
    So what's the issue? It will possibly close the gap for people who aren't AFK or have read a tooltip (Stupid people), but you can't fix (stupid people) without making the system itself stupid. So it may help those it can, it probably won't help those who no system could help. That's a successful thought in my eyes.
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