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  1. #61
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mishari View Post
    Oh boy, i'm so tired of reading this.
    That's not the point!
    The point is, that SE should add such items in this subscription based game itself. As loot, as recipe or whatever.

    We all get that it is optional and that we don't have to buy it. We got it, really!
    I could buy it, my wallet could handle this. But should i? Hell no!
    SE is getting really greedy and we should not support that.
    Then vote with your wallet and don't buy it.
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    Baby, tell me, what's your motive?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nirokun View Post

    Everything in the cash shop is optional, if you dont have the expendable income to pay for it,
    I don't believe in an expendable income. You pay for something because you want it regardless of the cost and you work around it imo.

    A lot of people dislike it so they won't buy it, that's fine. Refusing to buy something just because it is on the Mog Station that is puzzling to me. If you are committed to buy something you are committed to buying it, if you don't want to buy it then you never really wanted it in the first place right?

    That is how I am at least. I buy things because I want them, I support things because I want to support things.
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  3. #63
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nirokun View Post
    Everything in the cash shop is optional, if you dont have the expendable income to pay for it, then don't pay for it, it's really that simple. There is so much available to glamour this far into the game's lifespan, there's no reason to be so bent out of shape about a brand-new set added to the Mogstation. If it bothers you that much, get a job, work an extra shift, etc. to justify paying for it. You dont need to have everything, that's ridiculous.
    Why do people not have to have money to be offended by pricing? I don't use daraprim but am offended when someone decided to gouge customers.

    The only solid statement you can make. Is SE has set a very high pricing structure and to expect cash shop items to be X dollar each time per character. This is not new, and people should expect it.

    Things that are unknown or untrue.

    1) People can't afford it
    2) These wouldn't exist if not for cash shop
    3) This is an amusement park type expense. NO NO NO. When I go somewhere with extras, prices are laid out and in place. We have yet to see a dev or SE rep come on here and define what my sub entitles me to and what I must pay extra for.
    4) The prices can't be argued it's subjective. Really? The world has nothing you can compare designing one in game outfit. The guys who have games on steam for $18 dollars didn't design any character models and put clothes on them.
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    Last edited by Moonlite; 05-31-2017 at 01:22 AM.

  4. #64
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    The "you don't have to buy it" argument is fine and dandy and all but at this point, SE has become our stereotypical crack dealer: yesterday, you got your fix for you and your friends for for next to nothing; today you barely get your dose and it'll cost you your arm, leg and wife and kids.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Healing DRK is literally... the same since ShB. The reason why people think it's a meme to heal nowadays because DRK receives very little to no buff to their sustainability vs 3 other tanks getting something useful. If you're capable of healing DRK back in ShB (or any tanks), then you'll heal EW DRK just fine.

  5. #65
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    I have five fully leveled alts (not counting those not leveled) and I pay a extra sub each month to have them up to 8 per server. If I were to buy the emotes and outfit for my main and those alts it would cost me 150 dollars US. To say that isn't a bit ridiculous is a bit over the top. I personally don't have an issue with reasonably priced items on Mogstation but the account locking to one character is just pain wrong in my opinion and really needs to stop.
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  6. #66
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    Got em all Loving the emote
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErryK View Post
    Then vote with your wallet and don't buy it.
    Yes, that's the only way to "vote" against it.
    But i would like to encourage people to think about the consequences of their actions (buying stuff from the cash shop)
    instead of just beeing like: "I WANT THIS! I WANT THAT! BUY BUY BUY O_O
    As we can see, it leads to more and more items added and rising prices. I can't imagine that is what the people want.
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    I for one do not mind supporting the game by buying the occasional thing here and there but the prices are to high and living in Canada with our dollar gone to hell it's a lot worse for me. Since the beginning of May I have spent out $325 on the Stormblood expansion, another 18$ for sub / $130 for the 3 Fan festivals and now another 22$ for this outfit. I know its my choice to do this and I will live with it but in the end it cost me $500 for a game update, a few in game items and a small statue and art book and that is way to much.
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  9. #69
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    Voting with your wallet is not the only way to make them understand how we feel. People need to understand that just because someone disagrees with you that you need to force them to not express how they feel about a subject. I bought the emote but I agree 100% with the people who say that with a subscription we shouldn't have to buy glamour for $18.

    Maybe a solution could be to increase the sub to around $18 per month and no that will solve the mog station problem..maybe. Would anyone be ok with that solution? $15 is probably too low for subscription these days for them so we need to find a new a solution or we need to ask them that if they do this because $15 is too low. Would be nice if someone asked this at the live letter. Is $15 too low of a subscription for FFXIV? Would a subscription $18 or $20 stop mog station glamour from happening?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mishari View Post
    Yes, that's the only way to "vote" against it.
    But i would like to encourage people to think about the consequences of their actions (buying stuff from the cash shop)
    instead of just beeing like: "I WANT THIS! I WANT THAT! BUY BUY BUY O_O
    As we can see, it leads to more and more items added and rising prices. I can't imagine that is what the people want.
    Because value and worth are entirely subjective. People determine what is worth their money and what is not. If SE goes too far those people will stop buying, it's really that simple. It is not really the customer's job to restrict their purchasing something they want for the sake of a greater good. There are things in the real world where the logic applies, but here, I really don't see it. It's still a game and virtual items at the end of the day.
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