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    Rasylia's Avatar
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    Rasylia S'ial
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    I honestly don't understand how everyone goes on saying: "I only want effort, not high dps" - which completely denies the arguement that OUT THERE enough healer get harrassed for not doing enough dps.

    Yes, you people here might be reasonable enough to understand the ins and outs from other healers, and appreciate when someone tries to help out with group dps, but that doesnt mean everyone is as ... compliant(?) as you are.

    It really feels like some people argue for the arguements sake. And this goes both ways.

    Anyways, i am not sure if i look forward to the official parse. I don't really know much about it yet, and i can see it go horribly wrong in open groups, while doing incredibly well in private ones.
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    Khuja'to Binbotaj
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasylia View Post
    I honestly don't understand how everyone goes on saying: "I only want effort, not high dps" - which completely denies the arguement that OUT THERE enough healer get harrassed for not doing enough dps.
    I think you are misrepresenting "Harrassed for not doing enough DPS" with "Harrassed for not complying to Always Be Casting", the two are different but the outcome is the same. People aren't looking at Healer damage numbers, people are looking at healer activity.

    I'm not saying this is the total rule of thumb, there are assholes in the game, however the general pro-dps crowd disagrees with them as much as the non-dps crowd does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    I think you are misrepresenting "Harrassed for not doing enough DPS".
    Easy fix! Nerf healer damage potential and increase the amount of damage tanks suffer. That'll fix something! Not entirely sure what but something!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH View Post
    Easy fix! Nerf healer damage potential and increase the amount of damage tanks suffer. That'll fix something! Not entirely sure what but something!
    That would just raise the skill floor required to stance dance for tanks and healers. If you raise it so much that even the top raiders have to play defensively as tanks/healers, the contents will be impossible to clear for average players/raiders. It's impossible to make healers never have time to dps. If you have no time to dps at i270, then you won't clear the content at i250. If you can clear it at i250 then at i270 you'll inevitably have some downtime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasylia View Post
    I honestly don't understand how everyone goes on saying: "I only want effort, not high dps" - which completely denies the arguement that OUT THERE enough healer get harrassed for not doing enough dps.
    The actions of a few do not define the many.

    Sometimes, you are going to come across jerks. That is not unique to healers otherwise #deletemonk wouldn't have been a thing. People who have posted in this thread, my included, only want effort. Do something; anything. Just don't stand still while everyone else does all the work.

    Quote Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi View Post
    At no point in any pre-50 content have you ever needed to pre-cast regen on everyone instead of cure. All it does is generate enmity at twice the rate that using cure or cure II alone does, thus if if you are using regen on a target not taking damage, you make the tanks job harder. Maybe they don't notice, or maybe most tanks have adapted to bad healer's, who knows.
    You use Regen after the tank has pulled and established threat. I generally wait until some damage has gone out. Why is this so difficult for you to comprehend?
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    Last edited by Bourne_Endeavor; 05-30-2017 at 05:19 PM.