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    Thunda_Cat_SMASH's Avatar
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    Sylvana Tenebri
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    I'll trade you my faith in community for your faith in development, if you've still got it.
    Amusingly enough I still do. XD Despite only playing since 2.0, I still have faith and respect in both Yoshida and the developers. Of course, while I do agree that an accelerated change isn't necessarily a bad thing, the community's zealous obsession with MUH DEEPS, even if it's only by one point, has pretty much killed any faith I had. While more information can be good, of course, I'd argue that all it does is hasten entropy, and in fact kills any adaptability because the only perceived way to do things is the 'correct way', even if there's another more feasible alternative, or equally feasible. The example with WoW is one of the things I especially hate, because all it does is enforce hive mind mentality and squashes any kind of creative problem solving.
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    Cassandra Solidor
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH View Post
    Amusingly enough I still do. XD Despite only playing since 2.0, I still have faith and respect in both Yoshida and the developers. Of course, while I do agree that an accelerated change isn't necessarily a bad thing, the community's zealous obsession with MUH DEEPS, even if it's only by one point, has pretty much killed any faith I had. While more information can be good, of course, I'd argue that all it does is hasten entropy, and in fact kills any adaptability because the only perceived way to do things is the 'correct way', even if there's another more feasible alternative, or equally feasible. The example with WoW is one of the things I especially hate, because all it does is enforce hive mind mentality and squashes any kind of creative problem solving.
    This is as much the developer's fault as the community's though. Friends and I were discussing Warrior and how it's essentially become "Fell Cleave: The Job." Everyone puts so much emphasis on how many Fell Cleaves they'll pull off above anything else. Why? Because nothing required Warrior to mitigate. When I can Holmgang every tank buster and easily be healed or heal myself, what do I need Raw and Vengeance for? They just become Fell Cleave buttons. For all the issues surrounding Gordias and, to a lesser extent, Midas, you just couldn't get away with that. Hopefully, the devs follow through with a third difficulty or super fight that actually forces strong mitigation and healing. That is when the DPS meta takes a backseat.
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    Aya Hamada
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    This is as much the developer's fault as the community's though. Friends and I were discussing Warrior and how it's essentially become "Fell Cleave: The Job." Everyone puts so much emphasis on how many Fell Cleaves they'll pull off above anything else. Why? Because nothing required Warrior to mitigate. When I can Holmgang every tank buster and easily be healed or heal myself, what do I need Raw and Vengeancefor? They just become Fell Cleave buttons. For all the issues surrounding Gordias and, to a lesser extent, Midas, you just couldn't get away with that. Hopefully, the devs follow through with a third difficulty or super fight that actually forces strong mitigation and healing. That is when the DPS meta takes a backseat.
    Why in the heck should that only be limited to there? O_o people have a tendency just to do the bare minimum to get though things, how come there is not any teaching tools to get people to use all their tools sooner then end game level?
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