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[Taika]

If people can't be civil on mass scale with parsers being regarded as a 3rd party tool you shouldn't be using, why in the hell would I support in game parsers?

This is going off topic, but I support them because of transparency: I have seen people berating others for "low DPS" when in fact the person "calling out" others was the lowest one, and no one could say the truth out loud because they'd risk getting banned. The reason I believe many healer DPS supporter support parsers is that both (to me) are about active participation and pulling one's weight in a team. Harassment on the other hand is something I won't stand - with or without parsers.

As long as people calling out healers on not parsing high enough doesn't become a thing. Not because dealing dps as a healer is hard but because it would be really annoying coming from anyone dpsing since healer dps is so dependent on the performance of the tank and dps in mitigating the damage they take.

Definitely agreed!

In best case scenario, the in game parser would also account for healing, overhealing, damage taken, deaths etc. Then you could also call out the DPS who think it's a great idea to stand in every AoE pool just to boost their own DPS. I would actually welcome a damage-down debuff affected by every single avoidable damage mechanic players eat. :P

Are you trying to make sure that anyone who might have thought your concerns/ideas had merit will now be convinced they were wrong and you are nothing more than a shit-stirrer? Because if not.... this is not the proper way -at all- to be listened to.

I think she simply considers herself clever and / or funny posting nonsense trying to provoke people and finds herself amusing.

[Hamada]

This is going off topic, but I support them because of transparency: I have seen people berating others for "low DPS" when in fact the person "calling out" others was the lowest one, and no one could say the truth out loud because they'd risk getting banned. The reason I believe many healer DPS supporter support parsers is that both (to me) are about active participation and pulling one's weight in a team. Harassment on theother hand is something I won't stand - with or without parsers.

I have seen that and best my friend could comment was the enmity meter. (she knew what the dps was due to steam, she refuses to use programs deemed illegal) Then the "enmity does not reflect dps" card was pulled and can't really say anything more other then reporting them for harassment for the comments. The only time it is really off is any enmity modfiers like tanks, ninja abilities, and quelling. Next up is SMN, you can REALLY be deceived by SMN especially off it. Pet adds a lot, awful lot.

The problem though is GMs are too reactive and we do not even know if they take action when they should. You also need to consider they seem to be lacking in the number of GM staff. That is my concern with parsers. It will provoke the general mass to make too much harassments because of it.

I can assure you it was not healers being blamed for people standing in bad. I don't think FF players are so far removed from anything resembling intelligent thought that they would somehow be different.

Today that very thing happened, if a run fails healers are the one to be finger pointed too.
"why tf did everyone quit this is easy as s***"
"bad heals man"
(reason it was 10 minutes later, and yes literal 10 minutes, not 11, not 9, was from waiting on a second healer)
*10 minutes later*
This same person gets 1 shot from standing in bad. yeeeeahhh sure it was healer fault, the run was very hard to heal.
(I also remarked on this, no reply, I think that is the true reflection of someone accepting being burned by a comment "your bad dodging cant be healed")

Seen it in a1s even when the real blame was lack of dps and bad rasin placement to help with that.

[Aramina]

Today that very thing happened, if a run fails healers are the one to be finger pointed too. Seen it in a1s even when the real blame was lack of dps and bad rasin placement to help with that.

I didn't mean to imply it would -never- happen. How often have you seen it happen? Is it really all that often? I feel like I play the game in the Twilight Zone because all of these horrible experiences people seem to have I seem to not have 99% of the time.

[Hamada]

I didn't mean to imply it would -never- happen. How often have you seen it happen? Is it really all that often? I feel like I play the game in the Twilight Zone because all of these horrible experiences people seem to have I seem to not have 99% of the time.

The fact I seen that in A1S should say a lot.
1. the fact a wipe even happened there due to lack of DPS, (over dps one robot to cause early self destruct derping I do not even care about, mistakes happen)
2. Blaming the healer on top of actually seeing that?^

uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh.....

Seen it on ozma semi often too, and the reverse "You should of dodged the unlovable dot so I have an excuse not to esuna you to let you die to 5 stack bleed" Yes they did spread out, but it does not avoid it completely =.=

[Aramina]

The fact I seen that in A1S should say a lot.
1. the fact a wipe even happened there due to lack of DPS, (over dps one robot to cause early self destruct derping I do not even care about, mistakes happen)
2. Blaming the healer on top of actually seeing that?^

uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh.....

Perhaps I phrased my question wrong, what I mean was like "in 5/10 dungeon/raid failures the DPS are blamed" or "in 7/10 dungeon/raid failures the healers are blamed", not so much interested in a one off/once in a while thing but rather if it is something you (or others) are consistently seeing.

[Hamada]

Perhaps I phrased my question wrong, what I mean was like "in 5/10 dungeon/raid failures the DPS are blamed" or "in 7/10 dungeon/raid failures the healers are blamed", not so much interested in a one off/once in a while thing but rather if it is something you (or others) areconsistently seeing.

I do not keep track, I knew what you meant. I mean I was trying to imply I do not keep track but seeing a DPS fail on 20% echo then blame the healer on top of it?!!?!?!?!? that should speak for itself how far people will go to healer blame.

Since I go healer a lot and save most crap.. like entering this in progress:

"why tf did everyone quit this is easy as s***"
"bad heals man"
(reason it was 10 minutes later, and yes literal 10 minutes, not 11, not 9, was from waiting on a second healer)
*10 minutes later*
This same person gets 1 shot from standing in bad. yeeeeahhh sure it was healer fault, the run was very hard to heal.
(I also remarked on this, no reply, I think that is the true reflection of someone accepting being burned by a comment "your bad dodging cant be healed")

was a 11-17 min in progress Containment Bay Z1T9. (don't remember the exact time, it was something in the 10's) Most likely that was a full wipe or 2 blaming healers when it was improper dodging. (based what was said when I entered) I had to 90% full heal on the second phase pushing my mp use to the limit with some raises here and there. Also my friend got no coms on doing Bismark for our relics, despite going overtime with the healing and tanks taking too much damage. She was even taking the adds at one point. I see no coms in situations like that is blaming healers on deaths when it was others making things so sloppy. I can't remember if i got any, something she focuses more on with runs like that.

[Aramina]

I do not keep track, I knew what you meant. I mean I was trying to imply I do not keep track but seeing a DPS fail on 20% echo then blame the healer on top of it?!!?!?!?!? that should speak for itself how far people will go to healer blame.

Sorry it doesn't imply anything other than you were grouped with morons one time. /shrug As you wish though, I guess I will be happy with my Twilight Zone DFs