We're all DDs now >.>

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

Three players did substantially more work while one got to "relax." That is why people get salty.

This argument only works if the other players are pulling massive numbers. DDs can take it easy just as much as healers can by adopting a much less rigorous and strict rotation or skipping use of oGCDs, and tanks are equally liable of taking it easy by just sitting in tank stance and spamming aggro combo. Why is it OK for these guys to take it easy and not push themselves to the edge, but it's a crime for healers to not continually be pushing out massive dps while babysitting their team? It's a weird double standard in this game that it's OK for dps to be pushing out 30-40% of their Max, but healers are expected to deal out 100-125% of what their capable of at all times.

[SpookyGhost]

Why is it OK for these guys to take it easy and not push themselves to the edge, but it's a crime for healers to not continually be pushing out massive dps while babysitting their team?

It's not. Everyone should be pulling their weight.

[Arrius]

It's not. Everyone should be pulling their weight.

Yet strangely, if we request a valid source of information about the DPS pulling their weight (aka, parsers), the forum community blows up and goes all 'but it will be used for evil!'
But hey, more fun grilling the healers here and bully them into a playstyle they might not want, right?

[Aramina]

Yet strangely, if we request a valid source of information about the DPS pulling their weight (aka, parsers), the forum community blows up and goes all 'but it will be used for evil!'
But hey, more fun grilling the healers here and bully them into a playstyle they might not want, right?

You are aware that alot (most?) people active in this thread lately ARE healers, right?

[Greedalox]

Yet strangely, if we request a valid source of information about the DPS pulling their weight (aka, parsers), the forum community blows up and goes all 'but it will be used for evil!'
But hey, more fun grilling the healers here and bully them into a playstyle they might not want, right?

Funny you bring those up, a lot of the naysayers to official parsers are Healers in those threads.
And people really need to stop using the word "Bully" to talk about pro-dps'ers. It's like calling all rightwingers Nazi's. It's silly.

[SpookyGhost]

Yet strangely, if we request a valid source of information about the DPS pulling their weight (aka, parsers), the forum community blows up and goes all 'but it will be used for evil!'
But hey, more fun grilling the healers here and bully them into a more offensive playstyle, right?

You do realize that the XIV community (and all communities) are made up of individual people with varying opinions, yea?

[Arrius]

You are aware that alot (most?) people active in this thread lately ARE healers, right?

Pretty sure I saw a roughly 60+ page large thread somewhere here about the upcoming changes, consisting of witchhunting, accusations, trolling and insults.
This is what I am refering to.

You do realize that the XIV community (and all communities) are made up of individual people with varying opinions, yea?

Hence I said 'forum' community. Yet my point still stands about that comment of yours. Not mainly about you, but in general.

[SpookyGhost]

Hence I said 'forum' community. Yet my point still stands about that comment of yours. Not mainly about you, but in general.

I mean, it's a strange comment to make. When you bring up getting an official parser you get people who are for it and people who are against it. Similarly, when you bring up healer DPS you have people who are for it and people who are against it. The forum community doesn't want any one specific thing, individual people have varying opinions on a wide range of different topics. One person could like healer DPS and hate parsers, one person could hate healer DPS and love parsers, etc. etc.

[Arrius]

I mean, it's a strange comment to make. When you bring up getting an official parser you get people who are for it and people who are against it. Similarly, when you bring up healer DPS you have people who are for it and people who are against it. The forum community doesn't want any one specific thing, individual people have varying opinions on a wide range of different topics. One person could like healer DPS and hate parsers, one person could hate healer DPS and love parsers, etc. etc.

Though the forum community swings heavily towards anti-parser and pro-healer dps from what manage to pick up from the bigger posts about them, and those are the ones I am referencing to.
Of course, there's also reddit and other places of communities you can access to about FF14, yet for the most people the official boards are their first stop.

[Hamada]

Yet strangely, if we request a valid source of information about the DPS pulling their weight (aka, parsers), the forum community blows up and goes all 'but it will be used for evil!'But hey, more fun grilling the healers here and bully them into a playstyle they might not want, right?

The reason the " forum community blows up " is because we are reflecting what we see people act in DFs. I had someone grill me over what spells to cast just because he died in loldeadcontent Labyrinth of the Ancients. Someone MPKed my friend and kept wiping a12n just because he did not like where she put the stack marker (she assumed she is supposed to put it near the boss like every other run?) Also seen people attack others for weak DPS to try win arguments (I once got to see this happen on a steam, with a DPS meter on it, and the people where harassing the top 2 DPS for having weak dps just because one of them ran the wrong way earlier by mistake.

Then you have people giving out coms just based on who's the most DPS and not what is going on. A person playing DPS tank found it worth it when draining all the healer mp and mp recovery cd. "I am right because of x rank on FFXIV logs" There is already enough toxicity with regards of doing the most DPS and you want to make it worse?