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[Aramina]

Do people seriously not see this as an issue?

Yes, people see it as an issue but that really doesn't change reality. I would *love* to have enough healing to do that I wouldn't have time to touch my DPS spells in dungeons, but that's not the case so holding my breath and stamping my feet yelling "this is not what I signed up to do!" accomplishes nothing.

[SpookyGhost]

Yes, people see it as an issue but that really doesn't change reality. I would *love* to have enough healing to do that I wouldn't have time to touch my DPS spells in dungeons, but that's not the case so holding my breath and stamping my feet yelling "this is not what I signed up to do!" accomplishes nothing.

This is basically the thing that a lot of people don't seem to get. On multiple occasions I saw in that PSA thread "the encounters should be designed THIS way!".... but they're not. You can hope and pray all day that the encounters will change so that you don't have gaps to DPS in but currently those gaps do exist and you should DPS in them. This is just how the game is and plugging your ears to try to shut it all out doesn't do any good for anyone. If you don't like that you have to DPS as a healer and a tank, then you can always either play a DPS (which you're going to find out isn't all that different from being a tank or a healer in this game) or you can quit doing battle content (or quit the game in general). Alternatively, you can be the real toxicity in the community and refuse to work with your team as so many choose to do.

[Zojha]

You can hope and pray all day that the encounters will change so that you don't have gaps to DPS in [...]

And you can also go to SE and ask them to please make it so. Whenever there's a Q&A on a fanfest or live letter or some other occasion, you can try to sneak the question in, you can go the old fashioned way of sending letters, you can make forum or reddit petitions on the matter etc.

You can try to actively push towards it and be constructive about it. You can toss out ideas for potential more engaging healer kits, throw out ideas for encounters that might achieve the goal, you can do mathcrafting to find some good numbers that would work, you can try to find and brainstorm alternate solutions to issues like skill and gear disparity etc etc.

All that has a far more realistic chance of achieving something than yelling at other players.

[Belhi]

Yes, people see it as an issue but that really doesn't change reality. I would *love* to have enough healing to do that I wouldn't have time to touch my DPS spells in dungeons, but that's not the case so holding my breath and stamping my feet yelling "this is not what I signed up to do!" accomplishes nothing.

It is on these forums. SE does read them and people are complaining so much over healers not dpsing or having to dps as a healer or just being dismissive of the issue, or saying 'that's just the reality of it. It could be worse'. This is exactly the place to complain about the core issues.

I dps in dungeons. Its boring not to. However the conversation is 'You healers better stop being lazy and dps' and 'no I don't wanna' rather than 'the design behind healing in this game is broken and these changes only emphases the issue and do nothing to solve it'. Technically stamping your feet on this forum is exactly where you are likely to get something accomplished if enough people draw attention to it. Hell we are getting a Male bunny suit because people on the forums made a big deal over it.

I am being rather loud about this because it is something that bothered me. If they cant figure this out its just going to keep messing with healer gameplay and honestly at this point I don't have faith they realise the issue. However people are obsessed with demanding healers who don't want to dps must dps and those who are completely against it aren't going to start any no matter how much browbeating they get. Demanding they do isn't going to accomplish anything either.

Maybe we should be trying to change the dialog to discussing what is wrong with the healing model and arguing less over things no one is going to be able to change anyway. That might actually accomplish something.

[Aramina]

It is on these forums. SE does read them and people are complaining so much over healers not dpsing or having to dps as a healer or just being dismissive of the issue, or saying 'that's just the reality of it. It could be worse'. This is exactly the place to complain about the core issues.

Do you think think they are unaware of the (lack of) healing requirements? I see no issue with us attempting to bring our concerns to light, but I am absolutely positive they are already aware of healing's shortcomings. That's not to say we shouldn't try, but I would be honestly shocked if it changed.

[Lambdafish]

It is on these forums. SE does read them and people are complaining so much over healers not dpsing or having to dps as a healer or just being dismissive of the issue, or saying 'that's just the reality of it. It could be worse'. This is exactly the place to complain about the core issues.

This is a catch 22. SE wants to cater to the casual market, and the problem is that the more focus they put on healing, the harder they have to make healing, so they focus on casuals, make healing easy, and that is why we have to DPS.

What they have done is Stormblood is make it so that those who struggled with cleric stance dancing now have more accessibility towards the DPS half of their toolkit, making the role overall easier to play.

I agree with changing the dialogue, I have tried in so many threads to start a discussion on what could be changed in the healing model, only to be shut down by people saying "I just won't DPS, I play how I want"