Please do something about mentor roulette instant-leaves

[Anarnee]

You said that mentors leaving is a problem. I disagree, mentors leaving is just the same as everyone else. Just because I have the mentor crown on doesn't mean I have it on for duties. I have it on for reasons outside of dungeons.

If I don't want to do a duty, I'm going to leave it. Just like everyone else that does it.

Funny, coulda swore this was a topic about mentors leaving mentor roulettes. Oh... Wait it is.

No, if you do mentor roulette, and you afk or leave, you are a problem. You should not do mentor roulette or be allowed to do mentor roulette. If you leave other duty roulettes that are not mentor roulette, you get your penalty, but I think that you need to be held accountable if you're just leaving mentor roulette.

[MomomiMomi]

Funny, coulda swore this was a topic about mentors leaving mentor roulettes. Oh... Wait it is.

No, if you do mentor roulette, and you afk or leave, you are a problem. You should not do mentor roulette or be allowed to do mentor roulette. If you leave other duty roulettes that are not mentor roulette, you get your penalty, but I think that you need to be held accountable if you're just leaving mentor roulette.

Okay then, I'll keep it focused on mentor roulette.

I've gotten Sastasha four days in a row from mentor roulette. There's only so much a person can take. But based on this:

I think that if someone is a mentor and they leave a mentor roulette, and get the penalty they should have their mentor status revoked for a while.

You think because I leave, I should... be prevented from helping players? I don't see the logic.

[Vidu]

Funny, coulda swore this was a topic about mentors leaving mentor roulettes. Oh... Wait it is.

Actually the OP just assumed that the tank who left was a mentor - and then everyone else assumed that it was a mentor leaving a dungeon they got for their mentor-roulette...

Personally I believe the much bigger issue is people leaving dungeons they got as roulette at all - so I suggested a fix for that.

...and now I'm waiting for you to tell me to just open up a thread regarding that issue - but honestly, personally I dont care wether its a mentor or someone else leaving. Personally I dont care about their punishement either because I feel that I'm better off without them. If they didnt wanted to the duty, I rather have them leave than complain the whole time or ask to be kicked.

Personally I'm also getting tired of this mentor-witch-hunt - other people leaving a dungeon is just as bad and is screwing the rest of the party over just as much. The problem that needs to be fixed is rather to make people in general stay in the dungeon they got for their whatever-roulette and not so much targetted towards mentors. I do understand your point - and it makes sense that a mentor should be held to a higher standard here, but again... I'd say the real problem thats screwing people over is someone leaving a roulette-dungeon. So we should try to fix that.

[MomomiMomi]

Actually the OP just assumed that the tank who left was a mentor - and then everyone else assumed that it was a mentor leaving a dungeon they got for their mentor-roulette...

This is basically what I was pointing out. How do you know the mentor was doing a mentor roulette? Unless if it's something that isn't in other roulettes, you don't. And even then, you still don't know for sure.

[Anarnee]

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You can help people without the shiny crown. If you leave people in a roulette, just because you don't feel like doing sastasha, I really don't think you want to help people all that much, you just want the benefits of it.

I had a week where every mentor roulette I got was a EX primal, was I tired of getting them? Yes! Did I leave? No. I stuck it out each time, sometimes over an hour to help people learn. I wasn't the only one either, there were other mentors taking the lead and helping too.

As a mentor I have seen the problem, I have zoned in to have people AFK or leave, and I'm not assuming, I've seen it happen, its not a witch hunt. If you're doing your thing and actually contributing by all means, keep on keepin' on, but the defensiveness and inability to hear real and valid criticisms over a flaw in the systems is making me think you're less than savory yourself.

I don't take peoples dislike of mentors personally, because it doesn't apply to me, I suggest you take a step back and realize if it doesn't apply to you, then you shouldn't have anything to worry about.

[Nicodemus_Mercy]

I'll say this much... Barring actually disconnecting them from the game and preventing them from playing for a specific amount of time, I doubt there's many penalties that would stop people (mentors or not) from leaving a dungeon they dont like. Even if you temporarily stripped them of their mentor crown, they'd just wait it out and roll the dice again in mentor roulette. All uber harsh penalties would end up doing is lengthen queue times as less people are able to queue up cause they are sitting out penalties.

[NovaLevossida]

Mentor status should never have had any rewards, not even the crown by the character name. People who want to help will help regardless, but incentivizing mentoring via rewards just brings in the bad people.

[Miste]

I think that if someone is a mentor and they leave a mentor roulette, and get the penalty they should have their mentor status revoked for a while.

How long is "a while"....because what if I queue for mentor roulette and something happens IRL and I legitimately have to leave. I get my mentor revoked so when I maybe come back in a few hours I can no longer mentor?

Seems bad to punish people for having real lives popping up at unexpected times in my opinion. Some people have very active lives with family, work, and friends that can pop up out of no where quite often....they should all be punished for that?

Being a mentor in a video game isn't a "job"...we are still playing a game that is supposed to be "entertainment" for all players actively paying subscription.

[alimdia]

People still want to turn this game into Punishment Simulator Online, that obsession with seeing other people getting punished is never gonna end.

[Aramina]

People still want to turn this game into Punishment Simulator Online, that obsession with seeing other people getting punished is never gonna end.

I really don't get it, tbh. What do people gain by other people's punishment. It's very odd.