Please do something about mentor roulette instant-leaves

[AlphaFox]

I think most Mentors auto bail because the trial is to hard (like a Sync'd Primal) or a dungeon that can take a long time. After all, gotta do 2000 mentor roulettes for that oversized steroid pumped pegasus so they want to do the least work possible.

[Nicodemus_Mercy]

Is mentor roulette a daily bonus, like leveling roulette? Or does it have a bonus each time you run it?

If the former, I think a reasonable rule could be that if you Leave during a Mentor Roulette run, that uses up your daily chance at it, and you can't try again for the bonus until the next day.

The daily reward from it is so pitiful no one would care if they used it up by bailing. Its 30 lore and 10 scripture. That's all the mentor gets for running it. Now if the daily reward was much more significant AND you burned your daily reward by bailing, THAT would probably work to get mentors to stick it out.

[Kerwin]

It not just mentors. Its normal players who join roulettes too. The mentor meme has grown old.

Next people will complain about Legacy players.

[Anarnee]

It not just mentors. Its normal players who join roulettes too. The mentor meme has grown old.

Next people will complain about Legacy players.

Yes other players do it too, but you know what, I don't care when they do it, they're not doing it while wearing the crown and pretending to be important. Don't do the roulette if you're not gonna put in the work.

[Vidu]

Yes other players do it too, but you know what, I don't care when they do it, they're not doing it while wearing the crown and pretending to be important. Don't do the roulette if you're not gonna put in the work.

The same could and should really be said about any other roulette aswell - dont roll the dice if you're not fine with whatever outcome. I'm all for the loss of the roulette-bonus - wether its leveling, 50, 60, expert, trials, guildhest, PvP or mentor and whatever else there might be in the future - if you leave the instance you're put in, no matter wether you've joined as a mentor or not.

[Anarnee]

The same could and should really be said about any other roulette aswell - dont roll the dice if you're not fine with whatever outcome. I'm all for the loss of the roulette-bonus - wether its leveling, 50, 60, expert, trials, guildhest, PvP or mentor and whatever else there might be in the future - if you leave the instance you're put in, no matter wether you've joined as a mentor or not.

Yes, and there is a penalty for it, but that is not the topic of this thread, the topic is mentors doing it, and what can be done to discourage MENTORS from doing it. Not everyone else. I don't think the 30mins is enough of a punishment for people that at supposed to help teach and mentor.

[MomomiMomi]

Yes other players do it too, but you know what, I don't care when they do it, they're not doing it while wearing the crown and pretending to be important. Don't do the roulette if you're not gonna put in the work.

I keep my crown on so that players in town can approach me if they have any questions, not "pretending to be important." Man, this attitude gets tired fast.

[savageink]

What are the benefits though? And how does that fix the problem we were discussing here which is people leaving instantly?

I dont think we should give players the ability to punish each other - a kick is not a punishement, its removing someone from your party who makes the dungeon unpleasent (for whatever reason). Its a tool to ensure you have a good experience - not to sour that experience for someone else.
Reports are not a punishment either - they are reporting an issue to an authority thats able to look into the issue and decide wether a punishment is in order and what that punishment should be.

I was simply suggesting a way for AFKers to actually get a penalty. Which was to add a check box to the kick vote for afk. And if everyone voted with the box checked they would get the same 30 minutes everybody get for abandonment. That's all. I wasn't talking about mentors who abandon or giving people broad rights to mess with each other much. AFKing is a problem somebody mentioned and that was the simplest solution I could think of which would take minimal work. I also said it would depend on most people not lying to mess with others. Then I was informed that my opinion was too stupid to consider and I should keep it to myself. I laughed it off and the dude doubled down. So yeah, whatever.

Edit: I suppose if the afk button is checked it could be sent along with an instance log showing stats for proof that the guy did nothing for GM review to avoid some abuse.

[Anarnee]

I keep my crown on so that players in town can approach me if they have any questions, not "pretending to be important." Man, this attitude gets tired fast.

-rolls eyes- I never said that everyone wearing the crown was doing that. If you're doing your job good for you, but I know many MANY other mentors that don't. I only wear my crown when I'm willing to mentor and too many people just wear it because its shiny.

[MomomiMomi]

-rolls eyes- I never said that everyone wearing the crown was doing that. If you're doing your job good for you, but I know many MANY other mentors that don't. I only wear my crown when I'm willing to mentor and too many people just wear it because its shiny.

You said that mentors leaving is a problem. I disagree, mentors leaving is just the same as everyone else. Just because I have the mentor crown on doesn't mean I have it on for duties. I have it on for reasons outside of dungeons.

If I don't want to do a duty, I'm going to leave it. Just like everyone else that does it.