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    It not just mentors. Its normal players who join roulettes too. The mentor meme has grown old.

    Next people will complain about Legacy players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerwin View Post
    It not just mentors. Its normal players who join roulettes too. The mentor meme has grown old.

    Next people will complain about Legacy players.
    Yes other players do it too, but you know what, I don't care when they do it, they're not doing it while wearing the crown and pretending to be important. Don't do the roulette if you're not gonna put in the work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anarnee View Post
    Yes other players do it too, but you know what, I don't care when they do it, they're not doing it while wearing the crown and pretending to be important. Don't do the roulette if you're not gonna put in the work.
    The same could and should really be said about any other roulette aswell - dont roll the dice if you're not fine with whatever outcome. I'm all for the loss of the roulette-bonus - wether its leveling, 50, 60, expert, trials, guildhest, PvP or mentor and whatever else there might be in the future - if you leave the instance you're put in, no matter wether you've joined as a mentor or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vidu View Post
    The same could and should really be said about any other roulette aswell - dont roll the dice if you're not fine with whatever outcome. I'm all for the loss of the roulette-bonus - wether its leveling, 50, 60, expert, trials, guildhest, PvP or mentor and whatever else there might be in the future - if you leave the instance you're put in, no matter wether you've joined as a mentor or not.
    Yes, and there is a penalty for it, but that is not the topic of this thread, the topic is mentors doing it, and what can be done to discourage MENTORS from doing it. Not everyone else. I don't think the 30mins is enough of a punishment for people that at supposed to help teach and mentor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anarnee View Post
    Yes other players do it too, but you know what, I don't care when they do it, they're not doing it while wearing the crown and pretending to be important. Don't do the roulette if you're not gonna put in the work.
    I keep my crown on so that players in town can approach me if they have any questions, not "pretending to be important." Man, this attitude gets tired fast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MomomiMomi View Post
    I keep my crown on so that players in town can approach me if they have any questions, not "pretending to be important." Man, this attitude gets tired fast.
    -rolls eyes- I never said that everyone wearing the crown was doing that. If you're doing your job good for you, but I know many MANY other mentors that don't. I only wear my crown when I'm willing to mentor and too many people just wear it because its shiny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anarnee View Post
    -rolls eyes- I never said that everyone wearing the crown was doing that. If you're doing your job good for you, but I know many MANY other mentors that don't. I only wear my crown when I'm willing to mentor and too many people just wear it because its shiny.
    You said that mentors leaving is a problem. I disagree, mentors leaving is just the same as everyone else. Just because I have the mentor crown on doesn't mean I have it on for duties. I have it on for reasons outside of dungeons.

    If I don't want to do a duty, I'm going to leave it. Just like everyone else that does it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MomomiMomi View Post
    You said that mentors leaving is a problem. I disagree, mentors leaving is just the same as everyone else. Just because I have the mentor crown on doesn't mean I have it on for duties. I have it on for reasons outside of dungeons.

    If I don't want to do a duty, I'm going to leave it. Just like everyone else that does it.
    Funny, coulda swore this was a topic about mentors leaving mentor roulettes. Oh... Wait it is.

    No, if you do mentor roulette, and you afk or leave, you are a problem. You should not do mentor roulette or be allowed to do mentor roulette. If you leave other duty roulettes that are not mentor roulette, you get your penalty, but I think that you need to be held accountable if you're just leaving mentor roulette.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anarnee View Post
    Funny, coulda swore this was a topic about mentors leaving mentor roulettes. Oh... Wait it is.

    No, if you do mentor roulette, and you afk or leave, you are a problem. You should not do mentor roulette or be allowed to do mentor roulette. If you leave other duty roulettes that are not mentor roulette, you get your penalty, but I think that you need to be held accountable if you're just leaving mentor roulette.
    Okay then, I'll keep it focused on mentor roulette.

    I've gotten Sastasha four days in a row from mentor roulette. There's only so much a person can take. But based on this:

    Quote Originally Posted by Anarnee View Post
    I think that if someone is a mentor and they leave a mentor roulette, and get the penalty they should have their mentor status revoked for a while.
    You think because I leave, I should... be prevented from helping players? I don't see the logic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anarnee View Post
    Funny, coulda swore this was a topic about mentors leaving mentor roulettes. Oh... Wait it is.
    Actually the OP just assumed that the tank who left was a mentor - and then everyone else assumed that it was a mentor leaving a dungeon they got for their mentor-roulette...

    Personally I believe the much bigger issue is people leaving dungeons they got as roulette at all - so I suggested a fix for that.

    ...and now I'm waiting for you to tell me to just open up a thread regarding that issue - but honestly, personally I dont care wether its a mentor or someone else leaving. Personally I dont care about their punishement either because I feel that I'm better off without them. If they didnt wanted to the duty, I rather have them leave than complain the whole time or ask to be kicked.

    Personally I'm also getting tired of this mentor-witch-hunt - other people leaving a dungeon is just as bad and is screwing the rest of the party over just as much. The problem that needs to be fixed is rather to make people in general stay in the dungeon they got for their whatever-roulette and not so much targetted towards mentors. I do understand your point - and it makes sense that a mentor should be held to a higher standard here, but again... I'd say the real problem thats screwing people over is someone leaving a roulette-dungeon. So we should try to fix that.
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