PVP changes from livestream.

[Sylvain]

How do you know they will?

I have no freaking clue! But the game steadily improved over time, patch after patch. And I'm expecting it to keep improving.
They obviously invested a lot of time and thought in this new system. Being worried is a thing, calling it broken before launch is another.
For fuck sake, we don't even know what everyjob can do. We just know dragoons...

I'm actually expecting that the team working on PVP has thought about these things and balanced this stuff a little better than what you proposed with your 2000 hots and 5000 heal. You're not concerned about 3-4% unbalanced gameplay here...

The number you've guess are so gruesome that they don't even make sens. I actually took the time to look at what the DRG can do and made some guess according to that and what would make sens. A healer able to overheal a dps with 1 single hot only isn't a balance scenario and doesn't make any sens. Nor does the ability to spam 5000hp skill. Does it make sens for a healer, with all his tools, to be able to overheal a single dps? I believe yes, 2 dps, perhaps if they're not unleashing everything at the same time. Does it make sens for a healer to be able to whistand 4-5 dps? well... maybe not.

Concerning the CC in PvP I share some of your concern too, but again, I won't make any doomday claim until the game is released.
Maybe they tried giving 1 stun to dps and realised it did more harm than good, which is why only tank (with probably lower dps than melee) will be the stunning player.
You sound like all the WHM on the healing forum, they're all about to commit seppuku.
I'm not saying it will be fantastic and super balance on day one, happy butterfly and rainbow unicorn stuff.

But I believe the core change they did will improve the state of PvP by allowing more players to dive in it.
PvP is currently overwhelming, and if your reply is "but they dont take the time to learn it", well possibly, but if the vast majority of player don't wanna take the time to learn it because "it's overwhelming". Then perhaps they should do something to adresse the issue, and this is what they did.

And btw, to everyone valuing pvp in FF14, when it get released, you guys should make constructive feedback on what to improve, why it doesn't work and what could be done (realistically)to adress the issue.
Because if there's something people are good at on forum, it's to complain everything is broken without even saying what is (which obviously is immensly helpful to the dev). The devs do read our feedback, the removal of the casting time on bard and mach are a proof. When you hear Yoshida speaking, you can see that he's aware of many of the current issue.

[Keramory]

To each their own in terms of what they think of the changes... but I'm excited for this.

I was never one who thought more buttons = more skills. In fact more buttons annoyed me despite being proficient with them.

I'm a huge dota head admittedly, so the few buttons attract me even more. Completely different game I know but I'm in love with what I see.

Always enjoyed PvP. Going to enjoy it more. Just wish they'd bring chat back

[Mirch]

Just wish they'd bring chat back

This is it.

[Synestra]

Hopefully to counter the "nobody dies - ever" scenario, they'll either give healing in PVP a severe nerf and/or just limit teams to a single healer only.

But they did give some form of CC to all jobs so maybe this was their way to compensate healing in SB? cant really say anything for sure untill we see the numbers. PLD lost hes chain stunning tho and WAR might not be that OP anymore ;___;

[Koltik]

PLD lost hes chain stunning tho

Source, or just making stuff up?

[Sunako]

asd.

Indeed and it was just example. I tried que with tank, healer and dps and que times are pretty dead. Mainly i wanna que with my summoner because it have been my main class that i have played since 2.0, but those ques take usually something between 20 - 40minutes. Because feast have been active in the first weeks, that not mean it is popular at all. I really like feast lot more than frontline, but these que times make me wonder why I even play this game. Pvp is like last reason play this game if it is like this. We need huge improvements for pvp make it more active. This can not stay like this.

[Zojha]

I'm actually expecting that the team working on PVP has thought about these things and balanced this stuff a little better than what you proposed with your 1000-1500 hots and 5000 heal. You're not concerned about 3-4% unbalanced gameplay here...

Turns out I wasn't even far off...

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/pr/blog/002069.html

Cost sounds hefty, but if I recall correctly, so did the TP costs of DPS skills.

Yep, still concerned. Open questions include the amount of manareg and potencies/TP costs of other skills. So far, it bodes ill.

[SuperZay]

It takes a little bit more than a second to cast to restore 5k HP, and to do 5k damage with new dps skills when bursting you need around 5 seconds or more. Nothing will die. It'll be long, dull, uneventfull fights with multiple culling times.

[ZhaneX]

Not so much a mechanical matter, but the new PvP gear looks pretty nice.

[SabinStryfe]

So all the competitive aspects of higher end pvp has now been handicapped because people didn't want to take the time and effort to practice and improve so they can roll with the big boys? Oh well i suppose all good things have to come to an end sometime.