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  1. #41
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    Esp's Avatar
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    Espikes Darkwind
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    Behemoth
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Not sure about the OP, but I didn't see a loss of Rampart, it's still there...as a Role skill.

    Shadowskin is still there, just seems I can use it on others now.

    I never banked on Foresight...least not by itself. It damn sure won't help you with bad healers, but then again, more mitigation won't help you there either if you never get a Cure, so why bother stressing?

    It's much to early to begin the doom and gloom on a video of skills that you saw on a stream where it was clearly stated that WHAT YOU SEE HERE MAY NOT BE FINAL, and things can and may change.

    We don't have all the information, and sadly alot of the info we did get have some people losing their minds. (Hell, we all know Yoshi is a big troll. For all we know, he took some skills off his hotbat just to freak people out)

    Let's wait until 4.0 drops and we can get our feet wet in the new waters first. You'll just frustrate yourself more and more if you dwell on it for too long.
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  2. #42
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    Raim's Avatar
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    Raim Surion
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    Balmung
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    Marauder Lv 100
    Am I the only one who feels like its kind of silly to give people mandatory picks in cross role choices? It kind of defeats the purpose, as opposed to just giving all the tanks Rampart and Provoke by default. Maybe theres a technical limitation behind it. With tanks and healers especially you see that 3-4 of their cross role skills are essential and leave almost no room to try out the new skills in a group environment.
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  3. #43
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    Corydor Whitestar
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    Cerberus
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    Gladiator Lv 70
    STOP moaning about what you think is missing yoshi clearly said that not all the moves are showcased or shown in the video or live letter and most of them are still subject to change.
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  4. #44
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    Ultimatecalibur's Avatar
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    Kakita Ucalibur
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    Siren
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    Paladin Lv 86
    Quote Originally Posted by Raim View Post
    Am I the only one who feels like its kind of silly to give people mandatory picks in cross role choices? It kind of defeats the purpose, as opposed to just giving all the tanks Rampart and Provoke by default. Maybe theres a technical limitation behind it. With tanks and healers especially you see that 3-4 of their cross role skills are essential and leave almost no room to try out the new skills in a group environment.
    None of the picks are mandatory for all content.

    Rampart will only be mandatory in content with tank busters that come more often than once every 45s.
    Convalescence will still be a "nice when you healers have trouble healing you" but not really necessary.
    Awareness will only be a "must have" in content with high crit rate phases.
    Reprisal will be nice to have against raid wide attacks but hardly mandatory if the healers can heal well enough.
    Low Blow and Interject will be useful in fights that need abilities silenced/stunned but other roles also have them so not fully mandatory.
    Provoke and Ultimatum will only be mandatory when tank swaps are needed and even then content and player preference will determine which is better.

    Anticipation and Shirk are unknown but do not sound mandatory.

    Despite what some Healers believe, Healers are very blind to what they actually "need." They are confusing "really nice to have" with "must have." They do not actually need Protect, Esuna, Lucid Dream or Appreciation.
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    Last edited by Ultimatecalibur; 05-26-2017 at 09:35 AM.

  5. #45
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    Blueyes's Avatar
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    Blue Plenilune
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    Diabolos
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI View Post
    There is no need to be upset.
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  6. #46
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    Lace Valeria
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    Jenova
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Lol, I was thinking of that when I said it
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  7. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by Raim View Post
    Am I the only one who feels like its kind of silly to give people mandatory picks in cross role choices?
    It's not if SCH got something new and unique to them at Lv 40.
    If GLA got something new at Lv 22.

    If every "mandatory" pick wasn't in the cross role list that means MRD and DRK would have to lose something at some level to get their version of Provoke. You can say well DRK lost Low Blow anyway, that would only matter if they get nothing at Lv 10 now.
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  8. #48
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    Ahnohla Mujuuk
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    Sargatanas
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by SendohJin View Post
    It's not if SCH got something new and unique to them at Lv 40.
    If GLA got something new at Lv 22.

    If every "mandatory" pick wasn't in the cross role list that means MRD and DRK would have to lose something at some level to get their version of Provoke. You can say well DRK lost Low Blow anyway, that would only matter if they get nothing at Lv 10 now.
    This this 100 times this. Moving things we do not need to use 100% of the time makes room for new things that we will use 100% of the time.
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