Is not dps'ing that rare?

[Lambdafish]

uh oh.. so im keeping the party alive is just a 5-10% worth for u guys? and when im DPSin im at 90-100% performance healer?
this logic fail me...

then why u need a healer in 1st place then?

Because the healing requirement in this game is so low. It's not about what you are doing, it is about making sure that you are always casting something useful. If you are 100% healing then you are overhealing about 75% of the time, which is completely useless to the party. People don't care about a healers DPS numbers (with exception to DPS checks in high end raiding, I.e gordias), but they do care how much time you spend doing useless things like idling and overhealing.

IMO, anyone who says "Why do I have to DPS? Is my healing not good enough?" hasn't properly played healer, because they should understand how low the healing requirement is (I'm a noob healer and even back when it was current content, the first boss of antitower could be done on SCH without me pressing any buttons other than dodging mechanics).

[LunaFaye]

Because the healing requirement in this game is so low. It's not about what you are doing, it is about making sure that you are always casting something useful. If you are 100% healing then you are overhealing about 75% of the time, which is completely useless to the party. People don't care about a healers DPS numbers (with exception to DPS checks in high end raiding, I.e gordias), but they do care how much time you spend doing useless things like idling and overhealing

Man why did you have to correct that? I liked the "If you are 100% healing then you are overheating about 75% of the time, which is completely useless to the party." Nearly made me go back to playing healer again lol.

[Lambdafish]

Man why did you have to correct that? I liked the "If you are 100% healing then you are overheating about 75% of the time, which is completely useless to the party." Nearly made me go back to playing healer again lol.

Haha autocorrect at its finest

[Lazka]

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then it will lead to another question, bcause im idling not healing because the party not dying or im not DPS bcause im carefull watching mech and make pre-caution if something happen. is that a bad thing? and if yes is the respon should i get kicked? or get yelled bcause im not used the job at 100%?

well, if that happen (i get kicked bcause im not used a different "playstyle" with everyone) i guess its time to leave the healer job then?
i do DPS if i can, but if im not doing any DPS is im bad healer? should i get kicked or yelled? i kinda courious what u guys do to me then..
(its happen to my friend in DR mentor just now, someone told her to DPS bcause if not he will doin the heal rather than she)

[Kitfox]

...but if im not doing any DPS is im bad healer?

Yes.

should i get kicked or yelled?

No, unless the group is unable to clear the duty because of you, and even then the yelling is unnecessary.

[Lazka]

Yes.

No, unless the group is unable to clear the duty because of you, and even then the yelling is unnecessary.

uwah... so scary... im not DPS and im a bad healer, and bcause im not "helping" a DPS job to clear the duty (bcause im a "bad healer" that cant DPS at alltime).
so scary... i think im stayin out from random ppl and just playing solo or maybe ask a friend to clear some duty if this opinion is a majority through the all player

[Lambdafish]

so scary... i think im stayin out from random ppl and just playing solo or maybe ask a friend to clear some duty if this opinion is a majority through the all player

Its really not. Its all about learning the job. To start you should really look over your skills, see which ones give you opportunities to heal less (regens etc.), and form in your mind how long you have downtime when using those. It is ok to be cautious when you are first starting out, when I was on SCH, I would never DPS unless rouse was available, and even then I would drop out of cleric before rouse dropped off. The main thing we are looking for isn't your skill or damage numbers, but your mentality to improve, and I see that lacking slightly with your hesitance.

If you have an FC or even LSs, ask for advice, and I'm sure more experienced healers will give you some pointers, maybe even help you practice.

[Lastelli]

uwah... so scary... im not DPS and im a bad healer, and bcause im not "helping" a DPS job to clear the duty (bcause im a "bad healer" that cant DPS at alltime).
so scary... i think im stayin out from random ppl and just playing solo or maybe ask a friend to clear some duty if this opinion is a majority through the all player

Think about this way. You're a member of the party and the party's objective is completing whatever content you're doing. Now, you have an amount of resources, that is, your MP. Ideally, if you want to play optimally or close to it, you want to do whatever you can to clear the content as soon as possible while making sure that your party members don't die with the resources you're given.
MP not spent is MP wasted that could be better used to assist the party. You can only use MP to heal (or prevent damage with shields) or to deal damage, so if you don't need to heal in a particular moment, you're supposed to dps to achieve the common objective of the party.

The reason why some people get mad at healers not dpsing in dungeons is that healing in dungeons is very, very easy, even more so if party members are decently equipped. Actually, it is borderline boring. If you're just healing in a dungeon, you're either being lazy or scared. Whatever the case is, you're definitely playing suboptimally. You're wasting time if you're just idling and "paying attention to mechanics" (other party members must pay attention to mechanics as well while maximizing their dps), or wasting mana if you're overhealing. You're not putting any effort in the game and you're probably using 3 out of 20+ skills the game has provided you with. If all party members were to put minimal effort while playing, clearing a dungeon would probably take almost 1 hour. Tanks would pull only 1 mob at a time because aoe rotation is so hard (sarcasm), dps whould just spam 1 single attack because who cares, they're still dealing damage, so they're doing their job, right?
All in all, healers refusing to dps are just trapped in the (wrong) mindset that they should just do the bare minimum required from their role while the rest of the party does the job for them. Because, as many people said before, you can literally complete an expert dungeon letting your fairy do all the healing if your a sch, or casting diurnal aspected benefic on the tank once every 20 seconds if you're an ast (+ the occasional aoe heal).

[KDSilver]

then it will lead to another question, bcause im idling not healing because the party not dying or im not DPS bcause im carefull watching mech and make pre-caution if something happen. is that a bad thing? and if yes is the respon should i get kicked? or get yelled bcause im not used the job at 100%?

well, if that happen (i get kicked bcause im not used a different "playstyle" with everyone) i guess its time to leave the healer job then?
i do DPS if i can, but if im not doing any DPS is im bad healer? should i get kicked or yelled? i kinda courious what u guys do to me then..
(its happen to my friend in DR mentor just now, someone told her to DPS bcause if not he will doin the heal rather than she)

With the regens system, oGCD instant heal and boost heal, you definitly have some time to - at least - put some dots, that will do dps while you are healing.
There's no need to feel like you have to extra spam Broil/malefic/Stone. But at least dots, and especially instant cast dots. It takes only one or two gcd to do and you can drop cleric stance.

This small contribution is always nicely welcome cause it is the easiest and safiest way to provide some dps to your group.
And no one will die during that time especially failing a mecanic that will one shot him anyway.

When we are talking about dps on healer, we're not expecting everyone to do 1000 dps.
If every healer just use dots, the very least, it would be enough to stop yelling at those who "don't want to dps because blabla".
The thing is... in this game : our heals are VERY powerful, so powerful that regen sometimes alone keep our party alive. It makes part of our job to understand how strong our heals are and what to use for each mechanic.