PSA - Cleric Stance and vote kicking

[Seoulstar]

To the people defending the "no DPS since I'm a healer" stance, I just hope that, someday, you group with a summoner, you die, and then, when asking for him to raise you, he goes "Sorry, I play a dps to dps, not heal or do a healer's job."

Healing might be your MAIN role, but it's not your ONLY role.

Just like bards and mechs, summoners and ninjas with their goad, your main function might be to keep everyone alive, but you can do other stuff to help your group.

Do you realize how terrible of an example that is..I will explain it to you and before you assume I am one of the healers that don't like to DPS. I'm not, I DPS whenever possible. Anyways, this is why that is a terrible example. A healer dpsing will not significantly impact the run. A SMN with the attitude you're hoping for would directly result in the party wiping because they don't want to revive the person that is keeping everyone alive.

[MomomiMomi]

Do you realize how terrible of an example that is..I will explain it to you and before you assume I am one of the healers that don't like to DPS. I'm not, I DPS whenever possible. Anyways, this is why that is a terrible example. A healer dpsing will not significantly impact the run. A SMN with the attitude you're hoping for would directly result in the party wiping because they don't want to revive the person that is keeping everyone alive.

Then the healer shouldn't have died. If there was a different dps other than SMN then you wouldn't have gotten revived anyway.

[Seoulstar]

Then the healer shouldn't have died.

You need to think outside the box. Different factors can result in someone's death. A lot of times i've watched someone else careless mistake result in a healers or just another party member in general death.

[MomomiMomi]

You need to think outside the box. Different factors can result in someone's death. A lot of times i've watched someone else careless mistake result in a healers or just another party member in general death.

Still not the SMN's fault though. It's a poor attitude no matter what your job is and no matter what the consequences. And that's what is being compared here, the attitude. "I don't dps because I play healer to heal" is just not a good attitude to have on your team.

[Seoulstar]

Still not the SMN's fault though. It's a poor attitude no matter what your job is and no matter what the consequences. And that's what is being compared here, the attitude. "I don't dps because I play healer to heal" is just not a good attitude to have on your team.

It's not a good attitude I agree. But one has way bigger consequences than the other. One has the consequence of you having to restart. The other is just people finding you an annoyance and a minor one at that.

[ValarianHeartbreaker]

Do you realize how terrible of an example that is..I will explain it to you and before you assume I am one of the healers that don't like to DPS. I'm not, I DPS whenever possible. Anyways, this is why that is a terrible example. A healer dpsing will not significantly impact the run. A SMN with the attitude you're hoping for would directly result in the party wiping because they don't want to revive the person that is keeping everyone alive.

It's still the same PRINCIPLE.

[Seoulstar]

It's still the same PRINCIPLE.

It's a terrible way to try to make a point. There are better ways in trying to get a point off than explaining two situation that are similar but vastly different outcomes.

[Faliandra]

A healer dpsing will not significantly impact the run. .

Again this?

I outdps dps classes every day on my healers. You can do LOTS AND LOOOOTS of dps on big pulls. Do me one favor:

If you have NO IDEA what you are talking about, then...just DONT.

Thanks.



edit: im sorry if im coming off as agressive,but honestly...this is so annoying to see how people are constantly underestimating a healer's dps potential...

[Seoulstar]

Again this?

I outdps dps classes every day on my healers. You can do LOTS AND LOOOOTS of dps on big pulls. Do me one favor:

If you have NO IDEA what you are talking about, then...just DONT.

Thanks.

From my experience if I'm outdamaging a dps. It's mainly due to me being way better geared. Or maybe it just varies by class. Considering you are a white mage and apparently your aoe can do a lot of burst could play a role in that as well. So I do know what i'm talking about actually lo

Edit: Then again maybe not, I haven't played WHM since..before heavensward..

[Leanna]

Again this?

I outdps dps classes every day on my healers. You can do LOTS AND LOOOOTS of dps on big pulls. Do me one favor:

If you have NO IDEA what you are talking about, then...just DONT.

Thanks.



edit: im sorry if im coming off as agressive,but honestly...this is so annoying.

As SCH i can relate to this, there isn't a day where I don't outdps a party doing dungeons. Eos' regen is strong enough to let me dps as much as I want the whole dungeon, I just drop cleric for an Adlo before each pull.

Healers do damage, a lot, there is no excuse to don't do it.