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    Driavna's Avatar
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    Elara Almasombria
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adventica6 View Post
    If they land in a dungeon they don't want to do, you can't force them to stay.

    How can they force the player to do a dungeon they don't want to do? are you sure you thought your thread through?

    Nothing can force a player to do content they do not want to do. I though that would be obvious.

    There is a few dungeons I auto leave as well because they aren't worth my time, I would rather crafter or gather and wait for my penalty to clear.
    Then don't use a tool to que for a random dungeon. You are rolling the dice and you should deal with any result you get. Anyway, for Mentor's Roulette what I would do is to hit that achievement for the mount with a -1 to the total count.
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    Aryn Tatsuuchi
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    Quote Originally Posted by worldofneil View Post
    They'd already get a penalty if they left the duty, realistically what else do you want them to do? If they were actually there as part of mentor roulette (you don't know for sure) then maybe the leave option should be removed for that particular roulette, but I can see that being abused/people refusing to do whatever until kicked (but at least you could report for non-participation then).

    At the end of the day though, leaving a duty someone doesn't like is something both mentors AND non-mentors do.



    We do already have the novice network for general help though
    Quote Originally Posted by HELLruler View Post
    If a mentor queues for the mentor roulette, there's no excuse for leaving. Don't like the dungeon? Don't queue for roulettes. Bad players? Help them out, that's why you are a mentor

    There should be a severe penalty for mentors leaving mentor roulette since they are abandoning players that could need his help. I'd say getting locked from that roulette until next daily reset should be enough

    What if you had to leave, like a real life emergency happened? In that case, I doubt you would be worried about not being able to do a roulette that gives little bonuses

    I could consider...

    If someone queues into mentor roulette not allowing them to leave, or vastly increase the penalty for leaving, perhaps even applying a penalty if they are kicked. (Though I see possible problems with that...)

    But, when queuing up for the mentor roulette, there is a Pop up confirmation stating what is expected of them, and reaffirming these increased penalties and restrictions...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Driavna View Post
    You are rolling the dice and you should deal with any result you get
    But they do deal with it - they take the penalty and make the most out of it. It's not what you'd like them to do, but it's their right to do so.

    I agree there's a problem. Increasing the penalty isn't a solution - it's only going to drive people away from that roulette. One thing that can be done is making that roulette auto in-progress. I don't see why anyone should queue not-in-progress on that roulette, unless they're trying for hests - but good luck with that hest-farm when you get the penalty from insta-leaving Aurum Vale.

    As a side note, I'm not sure I mind as much the mentor insta-leave - a lot of us queue in progress anyway and can refill those spots. What gets me is mentors queuing for the roulette and getting a duty that's harder than the average hest and going "you should've watched a guide".
    What the frick do you think you have that crown for, yeesh.
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    Last edited by BillyKaplan; 05-24-2017 at 08:52 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyKaplan View Post
    What the frick do you think you have that crown for, yeesh.
    My crown has a hammer on it, so it sure isn't for helping people with battle classes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MomomiMomi View Post
    My crown has a hammer on it, so it sure isn't for helping people with battle classes.
    And that's fair, but then maybe you shouldn't be running the mentor roulette if you run it.

    (I also edited that post to better clarify what I meant. Still, people will see a crown and that's the reputation of Mentors at large that's affected, regardless of what that Mentor specializes in and what they queued for. And this thread has a lot more to do with that reputation than the actual roulette, I feel like)
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    Last edited by BillyKaplan; 05-24-2017 at 08:55 AM.

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    Player Masekase_Hurricane's Avatar
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    Masekase Hurricane
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    Quote Originally Posted by MomomiMomi View Post
    My crown has a hammer on it, so it sure isn't for helping people with battle classes.
    What happens when they add a hammer class :P
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