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  1. #31
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    Jonnycbad's Avatar
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    i have no idea why you even think this is a pet summons,it is an attack spell,that has form of a pet.it is crap.the last pet was level 30,this is now 40 lvls and no new pet for a pet based job.that is a JOKE. don't dare call this thing a pet.will it follow you?take orders?looking for an excuse as to why we are not screwed once again as we were in hw.
    Watch the Summoner's animation when Garuda disappears. See those summoning spheres spin around?
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  2. #32
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    Dyvid Pandemonium
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGothmog View Post
    Will it follow you? Take orders?
    Don't know the answer to either of these questions. In the world of MMO's there are such a thing as uncontrollable pet with a timer built too them. FFXI had Odin and Alexander, WoW had Infernals and now FFXIV has Bahamut Egi.
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  3. #33
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    Senliten Solstice
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    Quote Originally Posted by LunarEmerald View Post
    You have to enter DWT twice to summon Bahamut for 20 seconds.

    It looks like you can no longer use aetherflow while under DTW and attunement stacks no longer have a timer.
    I would like to think we still can, but we'll have to wait and see. Aethertrail stacks not having a timer is also still a bit skeptical from me, seeing all that was demoed was the abilities and gauges. We still will have icons and buffs, so I won't really hold my breath until the timer does not show up once the expansion hits.
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  4. #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by Senliten View Post
    I would like to think we still can, but we'll have to wait and see. Aethertrail stacks not having a timer is also still a bit skeptical from me, seeing all that was demoed was the abilities and gauges. We still will have icons and buffs, so I won't really hold my breath until the timer does not show up once the expansion hits.
    The whole point of the gauge is so you don't have to watch buff timers. If it's not on the gauge then it's safe to say there isn't one.
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  5. #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by Natsuno View Post
    snip.
    Well first, they would never sell something useful on the mog station.
    What you suggest is a different skill in itself. So if they were to ever do something like this, it would be as you pointed a new skill in itself and would fit a new expansion.


    What I pointed was, since many people would like to be able to summon different primal, without going as far as introducing new skills, skin would be a solution. However, there's an order of magnitude of difference between introducing 3 carbuncle egi and an alternate Bahamuth. If we keep Alexander as an example, they wouldnt (or shouldnt at least) let you summon alexander without changing his spell cast, which means he wouldn't cast deathflare but his own ultimate (the huge charged laser from the its eye I guess)., then, it would also be weird to cast bahamuth transe and then summon alexander. So, introducing as a skin alexander would require much more work than simply changing bahamuth, to make the whole thing consistent, new animation would need to be introduced. Which is why I said the mog station would be a solution. I do not see SE spending that much ressource into a free skin.

    An egi is different as they have much less details and have no spell interaction with the summoner.
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    Last edited by Sylvain; 05-24-2017 at 03:08 AM.

  6. #36
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    ohhhhh

    look at the pretty sphere that makes it a 'pet' wooooo pretty sphere....so if fireball had pretty sphere it be a pet?a pet is a summoned beast that can act on its own or be ordered,it does not appear than go away.it is an attack spell that has the form of a beast.if you want to call it a pet,than you need to change classes,sorry ive played plenty of classes that had summoned pets,NONE would even remotely call this a pet.
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  7. #37
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    Honestly after viewing the video....

    It does not appear to be a new pet at all...

    Its just a visual effect for a new twist on the Ruin 3 spam lead up to Deathflare.

    Could be wrong but that's my impression after watching it.
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  8. #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dyvid View Post
    Don't know the answer to either of these questions. In the world of MMO's there are such a thing as uncontrollable pet with a timer built too them. FFXI had Odin and Alexander, WoW had Infernals and now FFXIV has Bahamut Egi.
    calling a spell a pet does NOT make it a pet.ohhhh so lets just change the definition of pet. so why is not miasma not a pet?they could make demon appear and cast it,would that be a pet than?so they put up a beast image that casts a spell than it is a 'pet'.by that logic every spell user has 'pets' and every spell is a pet.all you need is picture,heal could have an angel cast the heals.
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  9. #39
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    Dyvid Pandemonium
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGothmog View Post
    Snip
    First, WoW's Gargoyle pet says hi. Second this goes to you and Silverquick, we have no idea what Bahamut is. All we know is after two Akh Morn the SMN calls Bahamut which de-summons Garuda Egi. We know it has a 15 sec time limit. We don't know if the Summon 2 pet bar is replaced with Bahamut's. We don't know if it moves or is stationary. We really don't know jack until 4.0 is in our hands.
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    Khuja'to Binbotaj
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnycbad View Post
    Watch the Summoner's animation when Garuda disappears. See those summoning spheres spin around?
    I noticed that too, I squealed like a fangirl



    Quote Originally Posted by TheGothmog View Post
    calling a spell a pet does NOT make it a pet.ohhhh so lets just change the definition of pet. so why is not miasma not a pet?they could make demon appear and cast it,would that be a pet than?so they put up a beast image that casts a spell than it is a 'pet'.by that logic every spell user has 'pets' and every spell is a pet.all you need is picture,heal could have an angel cast the heals.
    Is that a bad thing though? Whether it is a pet or not, it is what the playerbase asked for. The SMN fanbase is divided between wanting to focus on trance, and wanting to focus on pets, and this will be a loveletter for one of those sides, and if nothing else be a cool ability for the other. Ultimately, the ability captures the feel of SMN no matter what side you are on.
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    Last edited by Lambdafish; 05-24-2017 at 04:06 AM.

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