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  1. #21
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    Sylvain's Avatar
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    Sylvestre Solscribe
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 90
    Well... we're summoning Bahamuth which was the last boss of ARR.
    I don't believe we'll summon the six elemental primal for 2 reasons
    1- developpement time would be very high.
    2- I'm not sure how much sens lore wise it would make since we didn't spent that much time fighting the element primal and Bahamut >>> elemental summons
    3- I thought they wanted to use the "lesser primal" as alternate form for our pet. Which would be more consistent.

    However, I do believe we could actually see an alternate form, Alexander.
    This would require less developpement time since they'd need to make only 1 and from a lore point of view, Alexander is as much of a deal as Bahamuth was.
    He was posing a threat to Eorzea as a whole. The other primal were small fry compared to Bahamuth and Alexander.

    And as someone pointed, this could be sold on the moggle station.
    Depending on the price I believe it would be pretty popular.
    It would require much more developpement time than the 3 carbuncle we currently have. I expect we'd get totally new animation from it. Different laser etc.
    Let's not forget that from their pov, they gain nothing from developping alternate summon form. It's a money sync.
    Paying would also ensure a better quality. If they charge you for an alternate form, it's gotta a be a god damn good alternate form otherwise they won't sell it.

    If I were to main summoner, I wouldn't mind spending 5-10 buck to summon Alexander. I mean, if people are fine paying 4-5 for an outfit, that shouldn't be too much of a deal.
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    Last edited by Sylvain; 05-23-2017 at 11:54 AM.

  2. #22
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    Dyvid's Avatar
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    Dyvid Pandemonium
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    Adamantoise
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    Blacksmith Lv 90
    Well I'm glad the devs are trying to fix the mistakes they made with 3.0, not just with Summoner but with all the other jobs. Pets still lack any true play style difference and Garuda-Egi is still broken.
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    Last edited by Dyvid; 05-23-2017 at 04:02 PM.

  3. #23
    Player Neela's Avatar
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    Flower Girl
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    Zodiark
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Silverquick View Post
    As long as the Deathflare (aka Teraflare)
    LB3 is Teraflare don't mix that up... Deathflare is Deathflare at least until now : o


    Quote Originally Posted by Dyvid View Post
    Well I'm glad the devs are trying to fix the mistakes they made with 3.0, not just with Summoner but with all the other jobs. Pets still lack any true play style difference and Garuda-Egi is still broken.
    yeah im really happy that Bahamut will get a bit more attention for his own. Lore-wise he's a big bang prime primal and should be more highlighted than the current trance. If this concept works, it might be a way to see more stances/egi animations in the future. im looking forward this concept... looks pretty cool at this point :3
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  4. #24
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    Ash Arkwright
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    Asura
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    Rogue Lv 100
    I screamed inside. 10/10 did not expect evolving garuda into bahamut. I don't really want anything else anymore.
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  5. #25
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    Leigaon's Avatar
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    Zara Diaspora
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    Excalibur
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    Carpenter Lv 63
    Quote Originally Posted by Silverquick View Post
    So its going to do the actual Deathflare?

    .. ... it better be really good... and not just for show.
    From what it looks like is we get to do our own deathflare but once he's summoned we tell him when to do it. There was still roughly 5 seconds left and the symbol in front of us showed us giving the command. So I guess after we go into the trance so many times we can summon him. I would personally like it if he did it automatically at the end of the time limit or we could command it so if we're stuck or lag / forget..take your pick, it still goes off.

    I'm glad they gave the ability to summon him, but of course give people an inch and they want a yard. Already we're filling up with "Gimme Ifrit!" rather than people wondering if the pet abilities are being fixed or the enkindle issues being addressed.

    Not sure what you're expecting but it should be good. Unfortunately the "just for show" part is a concern and could very well just be that since that's what a vast vocal majority on here wanted rather than actual adjustments. I would assume that once we go from egi to winged-dragon mode the actual pets dmg increases.

    I'm more curious about spell being adjusted either via potency / levels or their actual usefulness. Also, no new pet actions from what I've seen.

    Then again, not everything was shown not every detail was given. We were given the meat, but the potato's and other delicious sides are still on the way.

    I wonder about Direct Hit and our spell speed boost. If things will change so it goes off for that, or if it might not if things like Direct Hit are so frequent. Which is good either way, if it's frequent enough it means our pets will have that mid-crit a lot more.

    In terms of just for show, this makes me happy. I'll have my carbuncle out and have him transform into the mighty dragon!
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    Last edited by Leigaon; 05-23-2017 at 10:24 PM.

  6. #26
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    Milarias Starchild
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    Zalera
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    Arcanist Lv 70

    Thumbs up NOT a pet

    i have no idea why you even think this is a pet summons,it is an attack spell,that has form of a pet.it is crap.the last pet was level 30,this is now 40 lvls and no new pet for a pet based job.that is a JOKE. don't dare call this thing a pet.will it follow you?take orders?looking for an excuse as to why we are not screwed once again as we were in hw.
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  7. #27
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    Natsuno's Avatar
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    Tsubasa Katsuragi
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    Odin
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvain View Post
    And as someone pointed, this could be sold on the moggle station.
    Please, no.

    I'd rather they made us wait an expansion and give us something useful with it than just a alternative to a Bahamut skin (and what's with the the mog shop obsession with everyone).

    If Bahamut is single target, then Alexander could be a wide range AoE (drawing from older incantaions of the summon), or if we draw on the 'time' aspect, it could give a raid/party wide haste buff. Viable or not, that's just a couple of ideas that come to mind. There is so much that could be done than with Alexander than just making it an alternate visual for bahamut.
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  8. #28
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    Emitans's Avatar
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    Faorin Shadowclaw
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    Balmung
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by TheGothmog View Post
    i have no idea why you even think this is a pet summons,it is an attack spell,that has form of a pet.it is crap.the last pet was level 30,this is now 40 lvls and no new pet for a pet based job.that is a JOKE. don't dare call this thing a pet.will it follow you?take orders?looking for an excuse as to why we are not screwed once again as we were in hw.
    It looks like it replaces your Egi for 20 seconds. The Egi is probably resummoned after it leaves.
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  9. #29
    Player Neela's Avatar
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    Flower Girl
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    Zodiark
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    Dancer Lv 90
    maybe you have to channel your and your egis aether-energy to "summon" Bahamut for the time being? I like that they gave trance at least a "reskin" - Bahamut looks great :3
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  10. #30
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    LunarEmerald's Avatar
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    Lunar Emerald
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 90
    You have to enter DWT twice to summon Bahamut for 20 seconds.

    It looks like you can no longer use aetherflow while under DTW and attunement stacks no longer have a timer.
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