Summoner cast Bahamut

[ZhaneX]

This is the best thing ever. Everything I ever wanted. I am absurdly happy right now. Huge smile on my face. Dancing with joy.

[Mature]

I REALLY REALLY hope they are considering doing what they did with Bahamut with Ifrit Titan and Garuda. And maybe for future Ramuh Shiva

[Lambdafish]

Man, I feel really bad for the animation department considering these requests.

[Silverquick]

I suppose I should explain all that...

As a SMN at 60th level... your DPS rotation in an AoE situation is going to look something like this.... (mind you Summoners vary)

Opener and Underlayer
Quick Cast + Shadowflare + Bio + Bio II + Miasma + BANE = About 2000-2500 damage per tick AoE

That's your under layer of the Damage going on that no one can see.

2 Painflares = 2500-3000 AoE damage Each + DoTs (2000-2500 ticking)
1 Rouse/Spur Enkindle (Garuda Aerial Blast) = 5000 damage AoE + DoT (2000-2500 ticking)
1 Deathflare = 6600-10500 AoE + DoT (2000-2500 ticking)

That the current AoE output of the SMN in a Multi-Target situation... Any kind of Animation lock will wreck it and prevent the re-application of DoTs and possible running in and using Miasma II followed by Blizzard 2 spam to finish them off... which does about 650-1000 damage per target when you're spamming it.

That's the Summoner in an AoE situation...

In a Single Target situation... the 60th level SMN in i260-270 is going to put out this....

Ruin 3 = 2500-3000 + Pet 1000-1200 + DoTs 2000-2500 (ticking)
Fester = 5000 + Pet 1000-1200 + Dots 2000-2500 (ticking)

That is a high geared SMN and his DPS output capability at level 60 in i260-270 gear.

I could tell you about the BLM stuff too and its just as nasty, though heavier in Single Target, but lesser in AoE.

So... if the flashy pet animation creates a lock when its used, it will screw up those rotations, and if it can't replace them its going to be a problem.

[Mature]

I'm just too HYPE about it . Bahamut looks GLORIOUS!!!!!!!!

JUST GIVE US THE OTHER EGIS AS BAHAMUT TOO!!

I was gonna switch to bard for 4.0 but that's just gone out of the window

[Silverquick]

Now... the most important part... and the reason I brought all that up...

In Raids and EX Instances...
....the boss mobs have this nasty tendency to go invulnerable right as you hit you DWT... or in the middle of it.

Because of this... most Summoners forgo the Ruin 3 spam entirely.. and pop Deathflare the instant they suspect they Boss Mob may be hitting that point. (Lose 5 Deathflares in a row in a Raid and you learn really quick.... a lost Deathflare is killer to your overall DPS).

So... hopefully you can cancel the whole thing the minute you use Deathflare. Otherwise you just killed the SMN DPS.

You will almost always cancel DWT when AoEing, as its pointless to spam single target Ruin 3s when you've got 6-12 mobs facing you, and you want to drop the whole pack as fast as possible. Ruin 3 isn't going to cut it, you need something that is going to hit multiple targets. So the Pet will likely never see the light of day in those shoes.

In Single Target Boss Mobs... now the SMN will begin asking themselves the question...

Will 10 more seconds of pet be worth more than my 6000 damage (Ruin 3 + Pet + DoTs) per... or is the Bahamut Pet actually doing 6000 damage per... and worth forgoing the other normal damage.

If not... then the pet will get canceled and no one will ever really see the Bahamut pet come out much at all, as they'll just cancel it early with Deathflare and move on to the normal SMN rotation anyway.

These are all questions we hope the Devs are keeping in mind... otherwise its just a pointless effort and the Bahamut pet will never be seen in the actual game.

Remember we are a DPS class and queues and competes with other magical DPS jobs... DPS is king... over and above all... and looking kewl and imagination isn't going to get you through that hard instance... only what your actual job can do will

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[Arynne]

Seeing Bahamut summoned like that made me sooooo happy!

Just from the little we've were shown I wonder if it's going to work a little bit like the Scholar skill that consumes their fairy to buff themselves but instead it would consume our Egi to fuel us summoning a shade of Bahamut.

And since we have a skill to summon a medium sized Bahamut (larger than our Egis but smaller than the actual Bahamut), I wonder if there's plans in the future to do that with the six elemental Primals. I'd love to be able to have a Leviathan Egi out and then supercharge him to do a few big attacks.

[Iromi]

As a SMN since 2.0..this pleases me :3 It would be awesome if we get the other egi's how Bahamut is summoned. I really like the direction they are taking Summoner!

[Dyvid]

Well I'm glad the devs are trying to fix the mistakes they made with 3.0, not just with Summoner but with all the other jobs. Pets still lack any true play style difference and Garuda-Egi is still broken.

[Neela]

As long as the Deathflare (aka Teraflare)

LB3 is Teraflare don't mix that up... Deathflare is Deathflare at least until now : o

Well I'm glad the devs are trying to fix the mistakes they made with 3.0, not just with Summoner but with all the other jobs. Pets still lack any true play style difference and Garuda-Egi is still broken.

yeah im really happy that Bahamut will get a bit more attention for his own. Lore-wise he's a big bang prime primal and should be more highlighted than the current trance. If this concept works, it might be a way to see more stances/egi animations in the future. im looking forward this concept... looks pretty cool at this point :3