PSA - Cleric Stance and vote kicking

[dotsforlife]

TL : DR: If you're not dpsing when you have time/should, you're being a selfish a-hole and you deserve whatever bashing/criticism/kicking that comes your way.

If you're new and trying to learn it's one thing, but obviously the frustrations here aren't towards those people.

[Jeycht]

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And it's all true. There is nothing to care on FF as healer in dungeon actually. When I tank (war or pld) I try my best to use my cd at right moment and have a good position/stun aoe skill for dps to be sure they aren't hurt. I even stoneskin as pld to gives healer a maximum time to dps. What mostly happen? The healer spam heal OR do nothing for more than 10s. Hell even when I have 100% hp and still have invincible up, some healer keep healing ! (and if they don't heal, again they absolutely do nothing). This is insane. I don't complain ig because I know what gonna happen but still... at worst I kick and ask someone in ls to replace, simple and fast. (rare that I do it)

I have try once to do a dungeon without dpsing as healer, the tank did good enough, I didn't have to heal even on big pull, only keep my hot up and wait. Boring.

[SlogDog]

Well, you certainly do a good job of asserting my "sociopath" comment. Hope it helped?

If painting me a "sociopath" helps go ahead, would be rude of me to burst your bubble.

How about we talk about glam and housing instead? Actually playing the game to your fullest is so passe when we have fluff to distract us. The best part about glam is everyone wins so pass out them trophies, you're all mlg now.

[Keikun]

I dont care about that changes. lol

I still WONT dps when I play as HEALER in dungeons groups!

Why people think healer classes have to do 2 jobs and tank and dps classes only do 1 job..?

Once DPS's or Tanks has the same healspells healer has, only then I will DPS as healer in groups too! o_o

I second this, you are one of the very few smart people around here and thats gonna make people mad.

[Keikun]

And it's all true. There is nothing to care on FF as healer in dungeon actually. When I tank (war or pld) I try my best to use my cd at right moment and have a good position/stun aoe skill for dps to be sure they aren't hurt. I even stoneskin as pld to gives healer a maximum time to dps. What mostly happen? The healer spam heal OR do nothing for more than 10s. Hell even when I have 100% hp and still have invincible up, some healer keep healing ! (and if they don't heal, again they absolutely do nothing). This is insane. I don't complain ig because I know what gonna happen but still... at worst I kick and ask someone in ls to replace, simple and fast. (rare that I do it)

I have try once to do a dungeon without dpsing as healer, the tank did good enough, I didn't have to heal even on big pull, only keep my hot up and wait. Boring.

Thats a nice story, fake, but nice.

[Jeycht]

Thats a nice story, fake, but nice.

How is that fake? Did you play my char for me when that happened?
It's all true and today again when I did my roulette. I can do a video if you want or even stream it. Tell me when you'll have time to watch. o/

[Aquaslash]

I dont care about that changes. lol

I still WONT dps when I play as HEALER in dungeons groups!

Why people think healer classes have to do 2 jobs and tank and dps classes only do 1 job..?

Once DPS's or Tanks has the same healspells healer has, only then I will DPS as healer in groups too! o_o

Do us a favor and stick to botany

[Ama_Hamada]

Thats a nice story, fake, but nice.

it isn't, i seen healers just spam cure at 90%+ hp 24/7
I seen healers use cleric stance the whole time and cast only heal spells.

I dont care about that changes. lol

I still WONT dps when I play as HEALER in dungeons groups!

Why people think healer classes have to do 2 jobs and tank and dps classes only do 1 job..?

Once DPS's or Tanks has the same healspells healer has, only then I will DPS as healer in groups too! o_o

WAR tanks and dps, DPS always hitting something to do so, and doing it badly is less then healer dps. People that perfect rotations find it irritating seeing someone stand around, that is why.

Do us a favor and stick to botany

or pick up a dps class so they can see what it is like?

[Miste]

All abilities are like that though, has to do with the bad coding of the game and being super sensitive to ping fluctuations and a single packet loss. It is not a clearic stance only problem, it is all ability problem, the coding.

Yeah, but his point was only Cleric Stance and maybe a tank having latency with defensive CDs at like Punishing Heat (tank buster) in A12S can cause deaths on a massive scale and or full wipes.

So he was actually talking about the 'risk factor of Cleric latency' which doesn't matter really for most other abilities. Like...yeah BRD could get latency and miss a Bloodletter and it reduces some DPS but it won't cause deaths or a wipe like a healer getting lag and getting stuck in Cleric Stance at a time they didn't want to be.

Most healers who DPS with Cleric have had it happen one time or another either by lag or bungling your button presses and nothing usually causes an unexpected wipe faster in Savage like a healer stuck in Cleric Stance at a wrong moment.

Ein and I usually got annoyed at Cleric Stance once per raid night at least if not more D: due to the risky nature of it due to lag.

Normally I don't mind Cleric but my ping also went up quite a bit with server move which was only going to make Cleric lag worse for me so idk I think I am okay with the changes to Cleric and healer DPS being MND based.

Yeah, there is more skill involved with the current healer DPS method, but having already mastered it I am personally okay with not having to deal with stance dancing on healer anymore and dealing with the latency risk which was completely out of your hands if it happened and caused unnecessary wipes.

(btw are you Ama? Hi o/ )

[Keridwyn]

I second this, you are one of the very few smart people around here and thats gonna make people mad.

Its not smart to ignore half of your abilities. Even SE realized this which is why healer dps skills are now based off mind. I'm not angry, I'm worried you guys are going to get kicked a lot in future content. I agreed somewhat before the upcomig Cleric change just because lag could get everyone dead. Now its much safer. Just watch your mana!