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    Bahd_Monkey's Avatar
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    Pale Esper
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    Midgardsormr
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Vexander View Post
    I feel like BLMs will probably end up the real mana batteries. Umbral Ice is just a very potent mana restoring mechanic. 20% MP would be recovered in a tick of Umbral Ice III.
    If the new BLM rotation is going to be as tight as it is now, I don't want to have to have to also monitor healers MP, and suddenly give 20% of my MP to a healer so they can rez/heal someone etc... in a split second to avoid a wipe. I thought that is what Ethers are for.
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    Last edited by Bahd_Monkey; 05-25-2017 at 08:57 AM.

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    Leiloni's Avatar
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    Leiloni Kahu
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    Leviathan
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Bahd_Monkey View Post
    If the new BLM rotation is going to be as tight as it is now, I don't want to have to have to also monitor healers MP, and suddenly give 20% of my MP to a healer so they can rez/heal someone etc... in a split second to avoid a wipe. I thought this is what Ethers are for.
    And I don't want to rely on other players who may or may not do what they should to manage my own MP on my healers. I want to rely on my own personal skill for my MP management. Anything additional like a BRD song was always just a benefit but not required.
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    Amelia_Pond_Behemoth's Avatar
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    Violet Baudelaire
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    Goblin
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    Dark Knight Lv 83
    Quote Originally Posted by Vexander View Post
    [Edit]: If anything about the new Role System concerns me its the Transfer of 20% MP to other party members. Going to suck if DPS Casters become glorified Mana Batteries, though I'm not unhappy we have more synergy with Healers.
    Wouldn't be that bad for BLMs, would it? Just pop this baby while Umbral Ice is up.
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    Rin Black
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    Balmung
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Amelia_Pond_Behemoth View Post
    Wouldn't be that bad for BLMs, would it? Just pop this baby while Umbral Ice is up.
    True, though I'm more thinking of Red Mage since in FFXI it had a reputation as a Mana Battery. I doubt the same will happen here, but this is a bit of a drastic new addition for the DPS toolkit.
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    Kaja White
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    Lamia
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    I'm looking forward to using the rescue ability. I've wanted this sort of ability for a long long time. So many times I could've saved people from titan's landslides or Sophia's scale tips had I had it. I just hope people won't ruin it for those of us who will actually use it as intended.
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    Maybelline Charmers
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    Cerberus
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    Culinarian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by LadyKairi View Post
    I'm looking forward to using the rescue ability. I've wanted this sort of ability for a long long time. So many times I could've saved people from titan's landslides or Sophia's scale tips had I had it. I just hope people won't ruin it for those of us who will actually use it as intended.
    Exactly, in other games that have a similar skill, I found it very useful in some situations and saved quite a few fights from wipes because the tank or dps had lagged out and not moved to a protected location mechanic... Can even be used as a sort of quasi training tool.
    It can only be used in group, to group members, so cant be trolled with out in the world.
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    Gemina's Avatar
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    Gemina Lunarian
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    Siren
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Someone help me, because I'm having trouble understanding how this helps. More skills to choose from, yet the same amount of slots? As a WHM, I now have to slot in abilities that were previously innate? Three of them as a matter of fact. Do they really think Surecast is better to have than Virus? What's going on here?

    I know there is usually an overreaction to new information that is released, but it would indeed seem that we have been nerfed, as the OP suggested.
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    Player Leanna's Avatar
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    Leanna Crawford
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    Louisoix
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Can't wait to have Rescue and kill as many people as I can, by accident, of course.
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    Sebazy's Avatar
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    Sebazy Spiritwalker
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    Ragnarok
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Losing Aero and Blizzard 2 will be a mild DPS nerf for SCH as things stand. No stoneskin could be considered a nerf for AST in particular (I'll certainly miss it).

    I suspect it's very quickly going to turn into a cookie cutter situation. I can see myself almost guaranteed to just roll with Prot/Lucid/DS/Esuna/E4E or Virus and maybe switching esuna out for cleric where it's relevant if I actually remember to (and then promptly getting someone killed because I forgot to switch back and couldn't dispel doom )
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    ~ WHM / badSCH / Snob ~ http://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/871132/ ~

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    NessaWyvern's Avatar
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    Nessa Goddessly
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    Ravana
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    Conjurer Lv 96
    Quote Originally Posted by Sebazy View Post
    Losing Aero and Blizzard 2 will be a mild DPS nerf for SCH as things stand. No stoneskin could be considered a nerf for AST in particular (I'll certainly miss it).

    I suspect it's very quickly going to turn into a cookie cutter situation. I can see myself almost guaranteed to just roll with Prot/Lucid/DS/Esuna/E4E or Virus and maybe switching esuna out for cleric where it's relevant if I actually remember to (and then promptly getting someone killed because I forgot to switch back and couldn't dispel doom )
    Losing Blizzard 2?! That's a huge pvp nerf to schs that they didn't need! (they are already the weakest healer in pvp) They will have no CCs that work in pvp now D: And to all healers in pvp in general! I use it a lot on my astro too! Whms in pvp would be even better than the other healers in pvp, as whm will still be able to bind, as well as sleep, and stun. Astro will only have stun, and sch will have nothing.
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    Last edited by NessaWyvern; 05-24-2017 at 11:48 AM.

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