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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by corydor View Post
    you would only ever use it during an ult attack, or as someone said you could use it to help a tank survive a tank buster although that would need some major timing.
    Stack to split damage mechanic aid is a potential use for it too. Either to spare some people (Black Mages) the need to move to stack up if they're not the target or to compensate for missing people in the first place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EusisLandale View Post
    Stack to split damage mechanic aid is a potential use for it too. Either to spare some people (Black Mages) the need to move to stack up if they're not the target or to compensate for missing people in the first place.
    Thats a good idea for it also to help people with prey mechanics but then how does the game class them as being behind you if the attack comes from above????
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  3. #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by corydor View Post
    Thats a good idea for it also to help people with prey mechanics but then how does the game class them as being behind you if the attack comes from above????
    By being in the cone coming out of your back I would assume.
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  4. #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by EusisLandale View Post
    By being in the cone coming out of your back I would assume.
    it did look like the wings covered the top as well in the video so who knows
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  5. #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by corydor View Post
    you would only ever use it during an ult attack, or as someone said you could use it to help a tank survive a tank buster although that would need some major timing.
    Using it on an ult would be pointless, though. They can't tune it so that you can only survive with PLD's ability or PLD would be broken. You have plenty of time to get everyone back to full before the boss shows back up so having that extra mitigation really doesn't do anything except potentially save MP if (for some reason) the ult hits so hard that you saved the healer an extra AOE heal... and that's highly improbable.

    e: Sorry, to clarify, you might as well use it on an ult since it's even more useless elsewhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpookyGhost View Post
    Using it on an ult would be pointless, though. They can't tune it so that you can only survive with PLD's ability or PLD would be broken. You have plenty of time to get everyone back to full before the boss shows back up so having that extra mitigation really doesn't do anything except potentially save MP if (for some reason) the ult hits so hard that you saved the healer an extra AOE heal... and that's highly improbable.

    e: Sorry, to clarify, you might as well use it on an ult since it's even more useless elsewhere.
    you can also use it on line stack mechanics.
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    Just wanted to point out that each fell cleave only hit for ~4k on the stream
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  8. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marxam View Post
    you can also use it on line stack mechanics.
    charge attacks, attacks that lock players in place, lazy blm ( but i would just let them die ^^) times when you have a very small area to work with.
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  9. #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marxam View Post
    you can also use it on line stack mechanics.
    And sacrifice DPS. If it didn't lock your actions this wouldn't be a problem, but it becomes a question of who's damage is more valuable PLD vs healers, if it even saves your healer a GCD, etc. It's really, really, really situational (if useful at all) when you can actually hit the boss outside of perfectly timing the 100% block thing.

    e: Okay, people seem to just be caring about the fact that it mitigates damage so w/e. I concede. Enjoy your new ability.
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  10. #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpookyGhost View Post
    And sacrifice DPS. If it didn't lock your actions this wouldn't be a problem, but it becomes a question of who's damage is more valuable PLD vs healers, if it even saves your healer a GCD, etc. It's really, really, really situational (if useful at all) when you can actually hit the boss outside of perfectly timing the 100% block thing.

    e: Okay, people seem to just be caring about the fact that it mitigates damage so w/e. I concede. Enjoy your new ability.
    Do we know that there's no way to cancel it early? If we don't know one way or another, then all we can discuss is the utility. If it can't, fine but damage from a tank isn't everything especially if others can keep at it safely. If it can, the loss of DPS for a couple seconds, at worst, from a tank is nothing.
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