How Would You Do... Summoner?

[Silverquick]

I bet you were the kid in art class in elementary school who told other kids they drew monsters wrong... we KNOW you like things as they are, we get it.... you main SMN... but let's be real you only care about damage and not the spirit of summoner.... this thread is how would you make summoner, you instead rip apart anything that isn't in line with your "big-d*ck dps or it's total garbage" mentality... at this point you're posts are more tedious and annoying than useful in any way besides to stroke your own overinflated ego....

REALITY CHECK:

This is a DPS class... it queues in the DPS queue... its not a support class and can't queue with the healers...

It can't just sit and look kewl so you can watch shinies... Yeah imagination and coolness factor only last until you have to get through that instance... OR compete with other Jobs and get through the instance...

If you can't pull the DPS... you're not going to be wanted. Like... back in ARR... and why people bolted the Job in mass numbers, because it could not compete or even come close to BLM.

As to the SUMMONER job and the "Intents"...

And on top of that... in NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM... does a "pet job" version of a SMN come anywhere near the Traditional FF Summoner... no matter which game you look at...

FF VII
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvErgY6HpX8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1no4OdDult4

FF Tactics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhUwX-AI4cs

FF3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyWMyfh1iPY

In other words...

Its always in all FF games treated as more of a BLM style really flashy Nuke... not as some pet who stays with you all the time and a power inherent to the Summoner... not as some pet

[Jerbob]

Its always in all FF games treated as more of a BLM style really flashy Nuke... not as some pet who stays with you all the time and a power inherent to the Summoner... not as some pet[/B]

I'll be the first to admit that I've not played every - or even most - of the FF games. However, in the ones I have played, whenever a summoner does something related to summoning, something big appears to do all the hard lifting work. Sure, it's a graphical effect and not a "pet" in most cases, but then again a spell is just a melee attack with pretty lights in most FFs. Where do you draw the line?

My point is, Summoner as a direct damage job (or DoT job for that matter) is no more "accurate" with regards to historical FF than the pet model. I'm sure the FF history buffs among us can state an exception or two, but for the vast majority of actual summoning that takes place, something shows up in response. Summoner's trances are actually fairly inaccurate by that metric.

[Silverquick]

My point is, Summoner as a direct damage job (or DoT job for that matter) is no more "accurate" with regards to historical FF than the pet model. I'm sure the FF history buffs among us can state an exception or two, but for the vast majority of actual summoning that takes place, something shows up in response. Summoner's trances are actually fairly inaccurate by that metric.

Incorrect...

Its never a pet job... ever, with only a few exceptions... one is FFXI... which that model doesn't fit this game...

The rest it was always a large flashy nuke... a one large single target AoE hit that wipe out enemies...

Which is exactly what Deathflare currently does... what few if any of them ACTUALLY have... is a pet that sticks around.