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  1. #261
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    Valkyrie_Lenneth's Avatar
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    Lynne Asteria
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    Quote Originally Posted by Acilith View Post
    I mean, is it 'worse' if they're empty anyways? Nobody's using it at all, what's wrong with an alt using it?
    Well, if you are trying to get RPers on a server, and you take all the housing with alts, that might not make people very happy lol
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  2. #262
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    Mateus has an extremely healthy leaf population. One of the healthiest I've seen on any server. In my ~9 months on Mateus, wards that were previously empty have filled up.

    So while they aren't being used yet, they certainly are being bought by Mateus natives. Yes, that is compounding a housing problem, even if our turnover rate is decent.
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    Last edited by CyrilLucifer; 05-20-2017 at 01:27 PM.

  3. #263
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    Also probably buying them all up with alts just means planning to sit on them so you can sell if there's ever actually a surge of players looking for housing.

    At least that's the impression I get from that.
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  4. #264
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    Acilith's Avatar
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    Alexandre Hanrieaux
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Well, if you are trying to get RPers on a server, and you take all the housing with alts, that might not make people very happy lol
    I mean if the alt is lvl 50, has the gil, I see no issue with it. There's someone who moved over with all of their gil to pick up the last mansion in Lavender Beds. If nobody's using it in the first place, I don't see the issue. Besides, if they like it enough they might move their mains?

    ...Why would someone want to move when they've already got a house, after all?
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  5. #265
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    Quote Originally Posted by Acilith View Post
    I mean if the alt is lvl 50, has the gil, I see no issue with it. There's someone who moved over with all of their gil to pick up the last mansion in Lavender Beds. If nobody's using it in the first place, I don't see the issue. Besides, if they like it enough they might move their mains?

    ...Why would someone want to move when they've already got a house, after all?
    Larges are constantly filled on Mateus. That one was likely auto-demolished quite recently. We recently had two mansions demolished in separate wards of Goblet and they were snatched up within 24 hours.

    So yes, an alt just took a mansion someone actually playing on Mateus could have used. Mansions are in high demand here; they are absolutely being used. You've probably never spent prolonged time on this server.
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    Last edited by CyrilLucifer; 05-20-2017 at 01:40 PM.

  6. #266
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    Acilith's Avatar
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    Alexandre Hanrieaux
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    Quote Originally Posted by CyrilLucifer View Post
    Larges are constantly filled on Mateus. That one was likely auto-demolished quite recently. We recently had two mansions demolished in Goblet and they were snatched up within 24 hours.

    So yes, an alt just took a mansion someone actually playing on Mateus could have used. Mansions are in high demand here.
    They're in high demand everywhere. Literally everywhere. No pity.

    ...And if they're ON the server, who are you to say whether or not they're active enough? I think the 45 day reclaim timer is the only one who can sort that 'activity' thing out.
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  7. #267
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    Quote Originally Posted by Acilith View Post
    They're in high demand everywhere. Literally everywhere. No pity.

    ...And if they're ON the server, who are you to say whether or not they're active enough? I think the 45 day reclaim timer is the only one who can sort that 'activity' thing out.
    That's not the argument you're trying to make though.

    You're trying to argue that because the houses are open they're not being used and therefore it doesn't matter if alts from other servers get them. I highly disagree because on Mateus Larges are being used. and they are in demand. So that is compounding the housing problem, when you claim it is not.

    I don't disagree with the premise of alts having houses, however (it would make me a hypocrite). I just believe that people actually playing frequently on Mateus should have them.
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  8. #268
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    Alexandre Hanrieaux
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    Quote Originally Posted by CyrilLucifer View Post
    That's not the argument you're trying to make though.

    You're trying to argue that because the houses are open they're not being used and therefore it doesn't matter if alts from other servers get them. I highly disagree because on Mateus Larges are being used. and they are in demand. So that is compounding the housing problem, when you claim it is not.

    I don't disagree with the premise of alts having houses, however (it would make me a hypocrite). I just believe that people actually playing frequently on Mateus should have them.
    Almost all of the large houses I saw on Mateus are personal houses, which, a LOT of people would argue are wasted that way. Most people would agree that anything above a small should be fc only. How's four people using a large better than an FC using it?

    I honestly don't see an issue with people from Balmung going to Mateus and buying the houses that aren't being used. I think it's silly to 'save the houses' for 'Maetus only' people. RPers spend a lot of time in their houses, I'm pretty sure they will see more use than some pver who only uses it for a cheap teleport.


    I'm also going to add that people on Mateus had literal YEARS to get to these plots, same as anyone on any other server. If they don't have the gil for it, they don't have the gil for it. Why get upset when someone who has the means gets the house? It IS definitely silly to be upset that someone's alt got something that isn't seeing use. It should sit there and gather dust? Because ...?
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    Last edited by Acilith; 05-20-2017 at 01:53 PM.

  9. #269
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicodemus_Mercy View Post
    ...Balmung and Gilgamesh are NOT HEALTHY populations. There's too many people there....
    :::Raises skeptical eyebrow:::

    By what measure?

    I began my sojourn in ARR, on Mateus, a couple of months after launch. Mateus was a ghost town. Tumbleweeds. Winds moaning through empty streets. Seeing the occasional other player, in Ul'dah, after midnight Central Time, was a shock and a pleasure.

    I subsequently skipped to Gilgamesh for a few years; retired briefly; and rejoined - heading straight to Balmung, *because* of the high, and wonderfully chaotic, population.

    I love being able to hit the streets of Ul'dah at any hour, and find crowds of people in the Quicksand, the Ruby Road Exchange, and the Aetheryte Plaza at Limsa. The "crowd" in the major population centers is what I expect from an MMO. PEOPLE. PEOPLE everywhere, at all hours! And they <gasp> TALK TO EACH OTHER instead of constantly running, running to their next destination.

    I find nothing unhealthy about the robust and interaction-heavy population.

    Wherefore do ye?
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  10. #270
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    Momomi Momi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Acilith View Post
    Almost all of the large houses I saw on Mateus are personal houses, which, a LOT of people would argue are wasted that way. Most people would agree that anything above a small should be fc only. How's four people using a large better than an FC using it?

    I honestly don't see an issue with people from Balmung going to Mateus and buying the houses that aren't being used. I think it's silly to 'save the houses' for 'Maetus only' people. RPers spend a lot of time in their houses, I'm pretty sure they will see more use than some pver who only uses it for a cheap teleport.
    Talk about a high horse.

    I hope most RPers don't have this attitude.
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