Transfer Restrictions and Roleplayers

[Vexander]

Maybe I'd be nice if you guys weren't showing just how childish and ridiculous you are. How are we to know you don't act like this in your RPs? Because if this is how you act over a temporary ban on world transfer... geez.

How exactly am I acting O.o? Have you read any of my posts or are you just lashing out at Balmung RP'ers out of some personal grudge? You're not doing Mateus any favors behaving like this.

[Marluxia]

Will the Balmung RP community move to the new server though?

As long as the proper incentives are there, Balmung RPers have no reason not to.

The main reason people aren't willing to transfer is the dollar cost and the loss of assets like houses and airships.

Free transfers to a designated server with a guarantee that all assets are preserved or otherwise adequately reimbursed, and Balmung RPers have only things to gain by transferring off.

Less queue times, more centralised RP community, less griefing (probably), better server stability due to lower population, more open housing since we're not competing with non-RPers, etc.

[Foofy]

While I'm not in any real bandwagon rush to leave or move or stay, you realize that indefinitely means possibly to an infinite or an unspecified amount of time? It's not a fixed time. Stabilization of Balmung's population could take a week, a month, or even years. Or if no one transfers, never.

'Active' character population.

People come and go all the time from the game. People deal with RL stuff and stop paying their sub for long periods of time. Again, I don't see it taking years. I see it taking a few months before the mass rush of people who used to play come back, try Stormblood, and then disappear again.

[Theodric]

Because they had friends that we planning to transfer in after the datacenter move and those friends ended up being locked out by the surprise change.

Unfortunate. Yet it's not much different to similar real world scenarios. If a restaurant is full, you might be able to squeeze a few more people inside. At some point, though, the restaurant simply cannot take any more people without there being major issues and risks involved. The same thing can be said about Balmung and Gilgamesh. Character creation has already been locked on both servers outside of some very rare windows of opportunity. To get around that, people began transferring over - and now as a consequence that option is being shut down for the sake of both server's health.

[jameseoakes]

As long as the proper incentives are there, Balmung RPers have no reason not to.

The main reason people aren't willing to transfer is the dollar cost and the loss of assets like houses and airships.

Free transfers to a designated server with a guarantee that all assets are preserved or otherwise adequately reimbursed, and Balmung RPers have only things to gain by transferring off.

Less queue times, more centralised RP community, less griefing (probably), better server stability due to lower population, more open housing since we're not competing with non-RPers, etc.

If that's is the case then that probably is the best option for SE, however the impression I've gotten from a lot of these treads is that people won't leave (and expect the non-RP population of Balmung to be removed) which gives me doubts about the viability of a new RP server.

[Marluxia]

If that's is the case then that probably is the best option for SE, however the impression I've gotten from a lot of these treads is that people won't leave (and expect the non-RP population of Balmung to be removed) which gives me doubts about the viability of a new RP server.

At that point it's more or less the responsibility of the RP community to further incentivise the move by moving themselves in the wake of an RP-designated server with sufficient transfer incentives.

I mean, I'm certain that a few die-hard RPers or people who value PVE over RP will stay on Balmung, that much is inevitable. I think it's fruitless to convince every single person to move, just enough that the new RP-designated server has a self-sustaining population and can grow further.

In fact, I think it'd be worth keeping the transfer and character creation restriction on Balmung even after the RP-designated server (for like, a few weeks at most) just to make sure any flow of new RPers comes to the right server and Balmung can be left to the non-RPers.

I know for a fact that if an RP-designated server comes through with sufficient free transfer incentives, I will definitely be championing the cause of RPers consolidating on an officially designated RP server.

[ClockworkCreation]

Please remember, we need to be polite to each other. Everyone has their reasons. My main has transferred to Mateus because the people who I didn't expect too were there in my time of need.

I still have an alt on Balmung who is there to care for her airships and some of my friends little corner of the world, but Mateus has been much warmer to me these days. That being said, Balmung still has people I consider family and I will go and visit to be near them as well.

Such harsh opinions hurts not only the server's reputation, but those of us who have characters on both, and the other side. There are reasons for everything people do, they are numerous. A little bit of empathy goes a long way.

[Foxberry]

What is with you Balmung RPers and being so entitled? There's a pretty healthy RP communnity on Mateus and no one reacts like this. (But please, don't come to Mateus we don't want you here)

I'm glad you're not the appointed ruler of Mateus; with all this "we" stuff.
This isn't for the people who are staying on Balmung (which majority likely are). This is Balmung and other servers who are on transfer-lock-down trying to HELP people who cannot get onto Balmung, Gilgamesh, etc. Trying to help other people get established in a place they can rp and be welcomed.

[Seraphine]

Since the beginning of FFXIV the idea of an RP server and which one it should be has been hotly debated. I really think it would have been great if SE had designated RP servers, much the same way that Blizzard has for WoW. I can't speak for the entire RP community (of course), but I think a lot of roleplayers would transfer to a designated RP server if given the opportunity. It would be nice if SE could recognize just how popular RP is and give us some additional housing to accommodate the community accordingly.

I have been on Balmung, Gilgamesh and Mateus at various times. Each community is different and has its own pros and cons, which is great because I think it's boring if everyone is the same :P They all have roleplayers who are creative, devoted and passionate about their stories. I don't think it's appropriate that people should belittle or bash on others. All the servers are good in their own ways. I, personally, will be RPing on Mateus and I hope to see you all there!

[savageink]

The eRPers won't leave, the raiders won't leave, and the none-of-the-aboves won't leave. Those servers are going to be locked for a looong time. Somebody mentioned housing transfers, housing will never transfer "as is" unless they switch to a fully instanced model, full refund is probably the best you will ever get. I have alts scattered all over the place, and I've tried the high pop servers. Couldn't stand the midtown lag. 500 people doing the manderville at the aetherite in limsa makes the whole instance crawl. If nobody will move maybe they need to just kill Balmung and turn the character screen into a server chooser.