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  1. #91
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    RaijinSupreme's Avatar
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    Dynamo Malevolti
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    Its so funny when people try to use real life physics as an argument against the bike, when the actual bike in question was created in a fantasy game where you had aliens from space, talking dogs, magic, giant monsters, etc etc.

    and THEN try to use that argument to say it doesn't fit in this game when the dev team literally said "oh, you can breathe underwater because magic. Your tiger can also breathe underwater because magic"

    So we are ok with the "just magic" reasons. We gonna let that slide. But a motorcycle can't be in this game because it has wheels, and realistically cannot turn, it cannot jump, you also have to apply collision detection and the bike doesn't have that, and every other real life reason you can think of.

    OK guys.
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  2. #92
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    Jandor's Avatar
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    Tal Young
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    The 'it's magic' excuse is used for things that are plausibly magical. Like giant monsters and spells to let you breath underwater. The bike isn't magic, and if it was magic it wouldn't even need wheels.

    In fact, problem solved, replace the wheels with magitek hover engines or something. Hover bike can plausibly fly, jump, turn in place and bounce all over Eorzeas bumpy terrain. People who want a motorbike instead get a flying motorbike, people who still at least somewhat care for immersion don't have to see janky wheeled vehicles jumping up and down. Everyone should be happy with that, right?
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  3. #93
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    1) No experience with large animals is necessary for knowledge of how momentum works. Even a human cannot start at top speed and stop in a spot from a sprint. Even a human cannot instantly turn around in a split second, though we are probably the best-suited animals to turn in spot in the first place in the whole wide world.
    2) Why can't a bike turn in place?! Did none of you hear of four-wheel steering?! I mean, I know that it's not popular for bikes and most city cars, but what's the problem with a hi-tech bike with wide tires having both of its wheels turn?! That allows both for moving to side and for on-the-spot turns while looking perfectly realistic.
    3) What's the problem with jumps as well?! Add a "rocket" effect from its exhausts pointing down and voila.

    I'm not a fan of weird, out-of-place costumes, mounts and whatever myself. I abhor all those "for fun" promotional costumes or stuff put into games from various cooperations with other franchises. But this bike actually fits the world as presented better than a LOT of things that many of the people against it probably would be hyped for. Just make it attainable from a location with that technology available and it'd still be reasonable to find it outside of that.

    Don't like it?! Don't use it. I wouldn't, but why want to bar others from it?!
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  4. #94
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    Tolby Seyfert
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    The video of the bike being driven actually looked pretty decent. I understand the devs concern when they actually set it to current mount speed though. It does look slow. I would still have used it though, the first speed setting made it look pretty cool. In past threads I already stated that the bike should just have an ability similar to the magitek mounts that have cannons. The bike could have a "Sprint" or "booster" kind of setting that increases speed temporarily.
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  5. #95
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    Shurrikhan's Avatar
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    Tani Shirai
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zojha View Post
    In the end, the entire argument boils down to:
    "I like it, I want it." and
    "I don't like it, keep it away."
    And both sides can make creative use of made-up arguments to support their respective view.
    The third faction of "I'd rather have it after getting physics enough to make it really awesome (which, at the same time, I really want for all the other mounts)" goes unrecognized. T.T
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  6. #96
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    Tae Sylphanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    It'd be better suited to the game world than the Yo-Kai mounts. It's also a direct reference to a previous Final Fantasy title - and with the model having already been designed and the speed for ground mounts being increased for 4.0 it's pretty likely it's planned to be added at some point. Those who don't like it do not have to use it anyway.
    Wait until they make a flying mount out of it. *_*

    \o/
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  7. #97
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    Vanitas Olterian
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    I'm sorry but with the existence of the whisper a go go, anything goes, "fits in the game", or not. Even the Regalia from ff15 is doable and imagine how silly it's going to look jumping around and doing the sharpest turns, and spinning around in circles!

    OH NO MUH PRECIOUS NON EXISTANT IMMURSION!!

    People pls.
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  8. #98
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanitas View Post
    I'm sorry but with the existence of the whisper a go go, anything goes, "fits in the game", or not. Even the Regalia from ff15 is doable and imagine how silly it's going to look jumping around and doing the sharpest turns, and spinning around in circles!

    OH NO MUH PRECIOUS NON EXISTANT IMMURSION!!

    People pls.
    As soon as they teased the Regalia for FFXV and first showcased that it could fly, I just knew it would become a flying mount eventually. I still hold out hope, since Yoshi-P did talking about a possible cross-over event with FFXV.
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  9. #99
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    Ovan Cifer
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    I wouldn't mind having the bike myself they could have it so the new areas are no fly zones giving people reason for something like cloud bike
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  10. #100
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    Vice Shark
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    Quote Originally Posted by LunaFaye View Post
    I don't like the bike in general but I have to agree, we have other mounts that can fly, even tho they shouldn't. We will have mounts coming in 4.0 that shouldn't even swim, but yet it's going to be implemented. So all these people that say that bike's can't or shouldn't happen because of reality/realistic feel and features, or based on lore, have a seat because you can't play both fields. You either need to take a look at the current/upcoming mounts and start complaining about those as well, or you need to tolerate that there is a market for flying/swimming bikes or just bikes as land mount in general. I just hope for my own sanity that it doesn't come with an extreme annoying sound, other then that, I'll be more then happy to ignore people that bought these bikes lol.
    Truthbomb~
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Healing DRK is literally... the same since ShB. The reason why people think it's a meme to heal nowadays because DRK receives very little to no buff to their sustainability vs 3 other tanks getting something useful. If you're capable of healing DRK back in ShB (or any tanks), then you'll heal EW DRK just fine.

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