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    I thought Fire II did 180 potency of damage. This is because I read that astral fire at 3 stacks increases the damage of fire spells by 80%. Mind you I haven't played BLM in months and barely payed attention to how much damage my Fire II was doing so I don't really know. Either way it seemed like it was stronger then just 130.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AvenoMatt View Post
    I thought Fire II did 180 potency of damage. This is because I read that astral fire at 3 stacks increases the damage of fire spells by 80%. Mind you I haven't played BLM in months and barely payed attention to how much damage my Fire II was doing so I don't really know. Either way it seemed like it was stronger then just 130.
    I used to wonder why things dropped so much slower when I would be AoEing as a BLM at levels 30-49. Could not figure out why as a SMN I was able to drop things so much faster with AoEs... but then when I broke it down... I understood...

    As a BLM at those levels I was using Fire II, with 2 or 3 stacks of fire. Potency of 140 or 180 for Fire 2 Spam.

    As a SMN I was using Bio, Bio 2, Miasma.... and then stepping in and spamming Bliz II. Potency of 40 + 35 + 35 for 110... for the DoTs that tick once every 3 seconds.

    Bliz II has a casting time of 2 seconds... so is actually 75 Potency for 3 seconds. (it's 50 per 2 second cast) but spamming it is an extra DoT for SMN.

    So I discovered even at those levels I was far outstripping BLM AoE damage with SMN.

    Fire II was 120-180 Potency
    DoTs (Bio>Bio 2>Miasma) 110 potency + (Bliz 2 Spam) 75 potency = 185 potency

    I could not for the life of me understand why even at lower levels AoEing large numbers of mobs as SMN was stronger than when I would do it as a BLM until I broke it down.

    And once you get to level 52 as SMN your AoE power takes off to even higher levels.
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    Last edited by Silverquick; 05-09-2017 at 05:46 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverquick View Post
    Fire III is also single target so is Fire IV. And its 10% more damage per stack of Fire. Its why I listed Flare the way I did.
    Astral Fire is 40% more damage for fire spells with the first stack and 20% for the next two stacks for a total bonus of 80%.

    So Fire 2 is 180 with full Astral Fire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferth View Post
    Astral Fire is 40% more damage for fire spells with the first stack and 20% for the next two stacks for a total bonus of 80%.

    So Fire 2 is 180 with full Astral Fire.
    Oh I misunderstood what you guys were talking about, made the corrections.

    I knew those high level calculations seemed way off for what I was doing AoE wise at higher levels as BLM.
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