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    Quote Originally Posted by SyzzleSpark View Post
    When I see "lol @ (insert weaker cooldown here)" what I read in my head is "I never use cooldowns except for every 90 seconds when rampart is up, or if i have 10 HP left maybe I'll hit Sentinel. I'm so funny my jokes are good".

    Foresight and Bloodbath have their place and if you aren't popping them while tanking the specified type of damage (physical, etc.) and all of your bigger stuff is on CD or being saved for a future big hit, you're fundamentally tanking wrong.
    I don't think you're appreciating the sarcasm in these responses. This thread turned out to be hilarious (which was not the intent, but I heartily approve).

    Almost everyone here knows to use defensive cooldowns. At the same time, we have all encountered tanks who, for whatever reason, won't use them. So the replies are poking fun at those people with one of the oldest forms of humor known to the net: communal sarcasm.

    No need to be a buzzkill.

    EDIT: I really hope this doesn't kill the thread. I've been enjoying it and would hate to see it die.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jpec07 View Post
    I don't think you're appreciating the sarcasm in these responses. This thread turned out to be hilarious (which was not the intent, but I heartily approve).

    Almost everyone here knows to use defensive cooldowns. At the same time, we have all encountered tanks who, for whatever reason, won't use them. So the replies are poking fun at those people with one of the oldest forms of humor known to the net: communal sarcasm.

    No need to be a buzzkill.

    EDIT: I really hope this doesn't kill the thread. I've been enjoying it and would hate to see it die.
    I guess I just don't get the humor :X They'd be much better butts-of-jokes if they weren't all good cooldowns for their intended uses (trash damage, autos, supplementing some stronger cooldown) but none of them fall short in those particular areas of use so.. yeah. =/

    When I think of butt-of-a-joke ability I think of like Haymaker or something. Or CC Savage Blade/Skull Sunder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jpec07 View Post
    For the love of the Twelve, use your godsdamned cooldowns!
    Could you be more specific? As in Job would be a nice start? If you just have bad luck with crappy players well You can always black list them. Problem solve. You won't party with them. Also, play styles vary and yes there are some really crappy...er in experience players who think they know their job. So yeah it's to be expected. Welcome to the world of online gaming.
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    Last edited by ManuelBravo; 05-07-2017 at 03:04 AM. Reason: addition

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManuelBravo View Post
    Could you be more specific? As in Job would be a nice start? If you just have bad luck with crappy players well You can always black list them. Problem solve. You won't party with them. Also, play styles vary and yes there are some really crappy...er in experience players who think they know their job. So yeah it's to be expected. Welcome to the world of online gaming.
    We're in the tanking forum. Not that hard to figure out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jpec07 View Post
    We're in the tanking forum. Not that hard to figure out.
    As in WAR / DRK / PLD which CD rotation ect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManuelBravo View Post
    As in WAR / DRK / PLD which CD rotation ect.
    In the tank forums, things like this go to ALL tanks who refuse to use cooldowns or use them incorrectly. (IE: using everything you have before the next pack is even on the screen) PLD, WAR, or DRK, anyone of them.

    Usually poking at the people themselves, not the jobs.
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    Last edited by Esp; 05-07-2017 at 06:56 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jpec07 View Post
    EDIT: I really hope this doesn't kill the thread tank. I've been enjoying it and would hate to see it die.
    A benevolent healers thoughts when the tank doesn't use cooldowns right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Esp View Post
    In the tank forums, things like this go to ALL tanks who refuse to use cooldowns or use them incorrectly. (IE: using everything you have before the next pack is even on the screen) PLD, WAR, or DRK, anyone of them.

    Usually poking at the people themselves, not the jobs.
    Lately so much hate for tanks, however it's also a matter of how a tank is raised. Example tanks under geared , party over geared, Raising a tank in POD or fate grinding rather than through dungeon experience. Lets face facts, most tanks that are over gear don't really see point of CD in old content or some of HW just because its too easy now. Sadly tanks that raid or do endgame seem to be more competent in my personal experience. For those who mentor all we can do is give tips, unfortunately too many people are delicate and cant take creative criticism. Mentors have hardly no patience now a days, non tanks usually expect speed runs with out taking into consideration their experience level. So solution, build your own party, black list incompetent tanks, or realize that people pay subscriptions and they can play their own way. Also the stronger people get the less mechanics they like to use so people shouldn't be surprised.
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    Last edited by ManuelBravo; 05-07-2017 at 07:39 AM. Reason: Character limit

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaulBan View Post
    1. Turn around.
    2. Raw Intuition.
    This how you warrior like a pro.
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    It really isn't that hard to treat other people like human beings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whiteblade89 View Post
    This how you warrior like a pro.
    Back in 3.0, it was funnily enough how you would actually use Raw Intuition, except with your back towards the HEALER and not the mobs. It was bugged back then and healers could CRIT heal you for the duration of Raw Intuition. It was so hilariously broken it was the greatest CD there ever was and you would find WARs who would hold the mob pack facing the party resulting in frontal cones aimed at the poor BLMs.
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