Quote Originally Posted by Berethos View Post
I'm not as familiar with WS current system (last time I played was just before it went F2P), but with GW2's approach to dye is overall a different approach.

In FFXIV the vast majority are either craftable or buyable from specific vendors, and these can all be traded. The few colors that are on the cash shop can also be obtained in-gamevia retainers and/or the marketboard. In fact, the cash shop dye is more like a slapped on option to the dye system, and it would be a bad idea to change the entire system for the sake of something from the outside that's been essentially duct taped on.

Compare that to GW2, where the cash shop is literally the lifeblood of the game. The primary source of dyes being brought into the game is via the cash shop, where they can then be sold on the market or used...they want to make that as attractive as possible to use.

That being said, I'd be willing to get that the dye purchases wouldn't be permanent if there weren't a host of other *bought with real money* consumable items on their store - really, you have to look at the whole picture here. Dyes aren't consumable, one-time use only things, but there are plenty of items that are.



You're going to be waiting a long time - I've already said my piece in response to your original comment, that Neverwinter's inventory system is somehow less of a rip off compared to the one FFXIV uses. You refuse to accept that 450 permanent slots for free is better than 434 for $175 - there's no reason for me to continue trying to convince you otherwise in the face of that kind of reasoning.
So you still do not understand my point, read the post again esp this part: (feel free to ctrl F):

huh 175? you said 80 something +6 or something i doono even if that is the case still less then a year sub here +6 retainers for a year. (somewhere around 264 for non-legacy)

That is the rip off, 175 that lasts for ever is much better then a year sub. We do not have enough space to be functional in this game. You are clearly ignoring was supposed to shed some light to get you to understand:

If a game gives you a million items, but 1000 spots to put them in, has less room then a game that gives you 1000 items total with 200 spots to put them in.


in other words 200 spots of inventory is better then 1000 spots because of the situations they are in, just like FFXIV and Neverwinter.

Also have you tried to obtain dyes latey though retainer? There is a reason they shot up gil wise, last few patches, they became a lot more rarer, so increasing the mog shop exploitation.

Quote Originally Posted by SokiYagami View Post
Just ignore Berethos. It's clear that he is running out of facts to counter our stand. He has been ignoring the points that we had been raising a couple of times and just sticking to the raw inventory count in FFXIV.
Yes I know but I want to point this out in case others reading do not get that.