[Req] Gatherer / Crafter Artifact Armor Glamors for Battle Classes/Jobs

[Titor]

Would still really really like this!

[Silica-chan]

While I'd really love to have my 50 botanist top on my battle classes I have a feeling we won't be getting this anytime soon.

[Felis]

SE should bring it as ilv 1 all class gear, with no stats and buyable with red scripts (only those who craft and gather are allowed to look as crafters or gatheres on their battle jobs)

[Lukha]

SE should bring it as ilv 1 all class gear, with no stats and buyable with red scripts (only those who craft and gather are allowed to look as crafters or gatheres on their battle jobs)

I honestly think that the best possible solution would be to compromise and do both; make the glamour versions available via scrips for those with DOH/L leveled, but also make them available via cash shop for those who hate crafting and gathering.

Everyone wins in that scenario: Patient people can get their items in-game without paying extra, impatient people can have their instant gratification while SE gets their money, and the mods don't have to read so many topics complaining about the cash shop. I see no downside.

[Niwashi]

I honestly think that the best possible solution would be to compromise and do both; make the glamour versions available via scrips for those with DOH/L leveled, but also make them available via cash shop for those who hate crafting and gathering.

Everyone wins in that scenario: Patient people can get their items in-game without paying extra, impatient people can have their instant gratification while SE gets their money, and the mods don't have to read so many topics complaining about the cash shop. I see no downside.

That's the opposite of a compromise, since it eliminates the compromise Felis tried to work into her suggestion. And I see a very MAJOR downside. You've completely eliminated AF. These are class specific for a reason, because the whole point of their design is to highlight that particular class. At least Felis's version gave a crumb of acknowledgement that you shouldn't have them without crafting/gathering, whereas just throwing them up on the cash shop for anyone to get eliminates their purpose altogether.

A compromise would be more like: You have to get them with red scrips, or whatever Stormblood's equivalent is (and a lot of them, since it shouldn't be easy to override the class specification on AF). And to get them you have to have reached max level in the class the original AF was for. (Or perhaps have to be level 60 to get the glamour of level 50 AF, and level 70 to get the glamour of level 60 AF. The level 70 AF wouldn't be available in a glamour version until the following expansion comes out.) Then you can get a level 1 glamour version that's either for all DoH or all DoL as appropriate, but not All Classes.


EDIT:
Just to be clear, I still wouldn't really approve of that compromise. AF is too important to compromise on. But at least I could recognize something like that as being a compromise between those who want to preserve AF for its intended purpose and those who don't. As such I could grudgingly tolerate it.

[Kazrah]

I am fully against this. Job locked gear should STAY job locked gear. Just like the people who want to take my Creed set and wear it as another class. Get your own glamour this one is for Paladins.

I think you're not understanding what this is for. This is for non-combat class armor, meaning this is exclusively for sets locked to Disciple of Hand/Disciple of Land classes (a.k.a. crafting and gathering sets). Don't worry, no one's taking your shiny pally gear (especially since I'm thinking it'd be too big for my lala).

I'm still in support of glamour versions of crafting and gathering gear sets as well as either glamour versions of the Ironworks crafting and gathering sets or have their class restrictions removed so they can be used as glamours.

[Glenfiddich]

Yoshida said it was a poor seller in the cash shop...

I think I recall mention at some point that they required the character have those classes leveled to be able to use them...

Maybe that's the reason why it is a poor seller. Many player do not like crafting or gathering.
I for one would like to glamour the Weaver Gear but I wouldn't level my crafter to 60.
I hate crafting. So, they already lost 1 buyer for sure if it's added to the Shop.

[Niwashi]

I think you're not understanding what this is for. This is for non-combat class armor, meaning this is exclusively for sets locked to Disciple of Hand/Disciple of Land classes (a.k.a. crafting and gathering sets). Don't worry, no one's taking your shiny pally gear

But it's the same thing. Crafting and gathering are separate classes in their own right. Their AF is every bit as tied to them as Paladin AF is tied to paladins. I'm against unlocking either, but it's completely nonsensical to support unlocking one unless you're advocating that they all get unlocked, combat and crafting alike. It makes about as much sense as for someone to say "Well, I main PLD, but don't care for magic jobs, so Disciples of Magic can all lose their AF, since only PLD needs to keep theirs."

[Lukha]

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It a compromise because the Chinese version of the game has these available exclusively from the mogstation, when they should be available in-game for those of us who put the effort into earning them? Exclusivity when it comes to clothes frankly makes no sense (why would I require years of special training to figure out how to put on a jacket?), so I can't see fussing too much over that. What I will fuss over, though, is having content that should by all rights be a simple adjustment to the equipping permissions on items which already exist in-game being made into content exclusively for those willing to pay extra.

I mean, it would certainly be nice if the items were made exclusively available to those willing to level the classes and then earn enough scrips to buy them, but that's not going to happen since they're definitely mogstation items. My idea was to find a happy medium between the two.

[Driavna]

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No, it's not. We payed for all those models when we buyed ARR/HW, it's not extra content in any way. Models for all races are already there and all they need to do is add another non tradeable version with no stats and no class restrictions.

If they do that anyone can level their desired gathering/crafting prof and buy it, but to be honest I'm ok with class restricted gear.