A consern about space efficieny since stormblood is not getting enough space increase

[LittleChickenNugget]

I haven't read the whole forum but I do agree we need more free retainers. It's not going to 'strain the system.' Not if the system can handle the hundreds and hundreds of retainers people are buying. Money is magic, I suppose. The trust is, SE, for quite some time, has become greedy and money hungry with it's FFXIV users.

[Talraen]

I haven't read the whole forum but I do agree we need more free retainers. It's not going to 'strain the system.' Not if the system can handle the hundreds and hundreds of retainers people are buying. Money is magic, I suppose. The trust is, SE, for quite some time, has become greedy and money hungry with it's FFXIV users.

That logic doesn't really make sense. Unless every player bought extra retainers, giving them away for free is going to increase their total number, and thus increase the strain. Maybe they couldn't handle it if every single person bought a retainer, or maybe they'd have to use the income from said retainers to handle it. Money is indeed "magic" in terms of supporting your servers.

All that said, I actually agree with you, they can probably handle lots more retainers than they do, if they really wanted to. But the fact that they sell rent (lol thanks for the fix) them does not support that view.

[SokiYagami]

All that said, I actually agree with you, they can probably handle lots more retainers than they do, if they really wanted to. But the fact that they sell rent them does not support that view.

Fixed that for you.

[Ama_Hamada]

That logic doesn't really make sense. Unless every player bought extra retainers, giving them away for free is going to increase their total number, and thus increase the strain. Maybe they couldn't handle it if every single person bought a retainer, or maybe they'd have to use the income from said retainers to handle it. Money is indeed "magic" in terms of supporting your servers.
All that said, I actually agree with you, they can probably handle lots more retainers than they do, if they really wanted to. But the fact that they sell them does not support that view.

Yeah we really need to find out why they cost so much. At release it was just 2 dollars each per month and only 2, for 2.0 that was more then enough so I may have a view, well that is just for luxury and convenience for being able sell more. Now we are at the point "renting 2" is required and renting 6 people are still strained, so we need to ask why do they cost that now? Was this an oversight because they where simply doing that pricing since 2.0 and did not bother to analyze it again? Or is there a different reason?

Well, it started with SE saying we'd get more retainers in HW in order to allow for the fact that there would be a big influx of new items with the new expansion (and since their planned inventory expansion wasn't going to be ready in time). The player expectation that those new retainers would be available in-game rather than through the Mog Station seemed justifiable, since SE themselves indicated the reason for adding them is that they'd be needed in order to deal with the higher item requirements.

A lot of people were rather upset when we found out the only thing they were expanding was the maximum number of extra retainers we could get at $2 per month each. Acknowledging them as essentially necessary to keep playing the game while not including them with our subscription seemed pretty underhanded for a subscription game.

So with what we've been told so far, Stormblood is at least a step above Heavensward. They are giving us some extra inventory this time around. But it's barely covering what we should have gotten two years ago. What we really need at this point is a glamour log, a tackle box, and currencies moved to the currency window. (There are a number of other things that could help as well, but those three are probably the biggest ones.)

again that is the point of this thread, we have been ripped off and still are with the news so far with the cost of inventory and doing little to fix the bloating. I was too, but I was not able to come on the forums then. So now I am being outspoken because we been needing this addressed for 2 years and soon to be 2 expansions.

[Talraen]

Yeah we really need to find out why they cost so much. At release it was just 2 dollars each per month and only 2, for 2.0 that was more then enough so I may have a view, well that is just for luxury and convenience for being able sell more. Now we are at the point "renting 2" is required and renting 6 people are still strained, so we need to ask why do they cost that now? Was this an oversight because they where simply doing that pricing since 2.0 and did not bother to analyze it again? Or is there a different reason?

My assumption is that they cost that much because people pay for them. If they gave away a free retainer, they'd presumably lose income. While some people may still get the same number of extra retainers, giving one away for free isn't likely to result in anyone spending money on more. So until and unless the outcry is such that Square Enix believes they are losing enough people that charging for retainers is a net loss, I don't expect them to change their thinking here.

Whether it's "necessary" probably doesn't enter into it.