So I'm not seeing how this is them changing things up from 2.0/3.0

[KokonoeAiyoko]

Idk, I never played WOW, ffxi, or any other MMO except for DCUO. I stopped playing that for reasons. But I haven't stopped playing this since I started, and I don't see myself stopping anytime soon. Me not playing other MMO's is irrelevant. If I had to play other MMO's to appreciate this one, I certainly wouldn't be here.

All I know is, I've enjoyed the game as is, and I never expected it to change. The fundamental aspects of the game has been a part of the game from the beginning, and I see no reason for them to be different. If people are tired of it, they can play another game. I'm not tired of it, and whether its an old system or not, its a system that works. Makes no sense to change it simply because people want it to be different.

I'm not saying I do not appreciate this game, but honestly, I've been around with this since beta 1.0. I notice your join date reads "Jan 2015", perhaps you feel differently on this as stated, or perhaps you haven't gotten burned out by dungeon spamming content and lack of open world. Perhaps open world content means nothing to you, or perhaps you haven't experienced it and don't see the potential it can bring to a game like this. There are a lot of variables here, but I think what can be taken from my side of the fence is that there are enough people that have an issue with this.

I noticed my OP has nearly as much likes as the opposing opinion, and I know that isn't a tell all, but I've seen complaints all over reddit and other forums about the content of this game being monotonous and too rinse and repeat. I feel as if there is a sizable enough audience that wants more from their expansions, wants more from their progression, and wants the game to do better.

Mega Man 1 is a great game
Mega Man 2 is a greater game
Mega Man 3 is another good game
Mega Man 4 is as well
Mega Man 5....okay I've played this a little too much before.

New Super Mario. Bros - Hey, cool! They brought back 2D Mario!
New Super Mario Bros. Wii - Hey, cool! Mario on the Wii with multiplayer!
New Super Mario Bros. U - Uhh...it's designed well, but why is the layout the exact same for 3 games in a row?

No one is calling this game bad, but it's getting dull for a lot of us. Not because we played it a lot, but because they keep giving us a little TOO much of the same thing. No one wants to turn this game from FFXIV to Barbie's Horse Adventure or anything, we just want more creative and enticing content.

[Iromi]

No one is calling this game bad, but it's getting dull for a lot of us. Not because we played it a lot, but because they keep giving us a little TOO much of the same thing. No one wants to turn this game from FFXIV to Barbie's Horse Adventure or anything, we just want more creative and enticing content.

I agree. Would looove to see new content added. What you described about Mega Man is the exact reason why I stopped playing single player games. They are more or less the same game with updated graphics..which, well...gets old for me. I have never seen people be against new content before as such in this thread. It would be amazing to have more to do then log in on Tuesday, clear weekly raid, do 24 man once, roulettes/WT, and then log out.

I am looking forward to Eureka because Yoshida said its new content If, in the end he does allow us to upgrade our armor via Eureka..that would be a start! Also as a side note - all of my friends (lots of them) who have quit..all tell me the same thing "well, its a nice game and all but with the patch updates..its more or less the same formula so I just got bored and went to play (insert random game here)" and they never came back.

[Airget]

I finally took the time to do some of the DOL 4.0 class quest and I noticed they cut corners with those cutscenes. They do a lot of fading in and out when certain scenes should be taking place because they didn't take the time to animate. So hopefully if SE does improve on one thing it's not cutting corners during any of the cutscenes when you consider that as a whole the DOL/DOH class quest only amounted to 4 quest each minus the introduction quest which would make it 5, but with just 4 quest, it shows that there wasn't much love put into those cutscenes compared to 3.0 MSQ and even the job quest.

[Yasuhiro]

New Super Mario. Bros - Hey, cool! They brought back 2D Mario!
New Super Mario Bros. Wii - Hey, cool! Mario on the Wii with multiplayer!
New Super Mario Bros. U - Uhh...it's designed well, but why is the layout the exact same for 3 games in a row?

To be fair with NSMB nearly everyone I've spoken too says those games are soulless cash grabs.
Atleast with single player games like Mega Man or the non MMO Final Fantasy games they add new mechanics or change the formula.

Mega Man X1 is my favorite platformer of all time because it took the classic MM formula and made it better. Even single player Mega Man did the same they added something to the games as they went on and didn't take anything away til 9 and 10. As for FFXIV and people's expectations I think people are just so used to getting "meh" content that they're used to it. I've never seen a playerbase fear as much change as this one.

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

No thanks to open world. There's no goal in this game that would endear me to the community at large if the Lily way to get it was through the OW, and I'm reasonably confident I'm not the only one. Leave that for where it belongs in instances content, and leave the OW for pointless faffing about and MSQ, where it belongs.

[akaneakki]

No thanks to open world. There's no goal in this game that would endear me to the community at large if the Lily way to get it was through the OW, and I'm reasonably confident I'm not the only one. Leave that for where it belongs in instances content, and leave the OW for pointless faffing about and MSQ, where it belongs.

Well, this could be for people who are interested in it. I'm welcome for it, because on older MMO's where there was no duty finder, it helped the people on same server build better community and so on.
Forgot to mention, the game does look amazing outside cities, but it's not used well. I remeber when HW was new, was so filled up with people, now it's all dead.

[Skyrior]

Without continual growth and progress, such words as improvement, achievement, and success have no meaning. - Benjamin Franklin

Anyone who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new. - Albert Einstein

Nothing right can be accomplished in art without enthusiasm. - Robert Schumann

To improve is to be inventive, be creative, and be daring. - Skyrior Drakon

These quotes apply to FFXIV in every way.

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

I'm welcome for it, because on older MMO's where there was no duty finder, it helped the people on same server build better community and so on.

We have FCs and LSs for a reason. Why do the developers need to design hunts 2.0 for open world content when people already have that? Openworld content has never been anything but a chore, please leave it out. It would add nothing to the game and would just make doing quests painful.

[Averax]

So you're asking for a formula change. A change in the way the game is fundamentally designed. You must be, or you wouldn't even be mentioning these things.

Everything you mentioned is to be expected, since its part of the game's formula. Of course there are more hunts, more trials, and more tomes, that's FFXIV. Like the other person said, you want this to be a different game. But its not gonna be, and expansions shouldn't be expected to do anything other than expand what we already have.

I can slightly understand the no new race, but only slightly, cause Au Ra was nothing but a modified Hyur, and any new race would likely be the same.

You really must not have played any MMOs before this, because an expansion is supposed to be an opportunity to re-invent the game. To be daring. Nobody likes to do the same thing repeatedly. There are some things at the core which stick and just evolve with the game (dungeons/raids/quests/etc...), but things generally change from expansion to expansion. Grinding dungeons for tomes as the majority endgame is not fun for a lot of people anymore.

[ShinMetsu]

1. No intention of adding new character customization options in the future.
I don't care. I'm happy with my character.
2. Maps the same size as Heavensward with the same amount of areas.
I don't care. I'm just inside my housing zone anyway and if i do go into a zone, i simply fly over it? .
3. Hunts returning in the same mindless zerg fashion.
I don't care. They're easy, simple, accessible and afk-able?
4. No new graphical options.
I don't care. FFXIV already looks pretty good compared to most others.
5. More tomestones and they'll have the same weekly limitations.
eh. Not a fan of this one either.


All i wish for is for content to get some meaning. Everything is meaningless.

Day 1 of patch. Acquired gear sufficient enough to clear ANY content currently available.
Farming Savage to get BiS for content that i am already farming, so i can farm it better.
Day 1 of new patch. Get rid of all the gear i farmed and acquire new crafted gear sufficient to clear ANY content available.

What's the point? What in the hell are we doing here? Not so fun imo.