Thread: So I'm not seeing how this is them changing things up from 2.0/3.0

Anyone pining for larger dungeons with multiple routes and such would do well to read the threads about speed runners in Palace of the Dead. Go into a matched party looking to explore and get silver chests, and see what happens. Sure, sometimes you'll be able to, but generally people play that content exactly one way, ignoring a large amount of the content that exists in it. This will always happen in dungeons. I would like sprawling dungeons full of exploration, too, but I know exactly how that will play out. Those dungeons will quickly be reduced to a linear corridor for speed runs. So that's what dungeons are now designed as, and they should be. To do more is going to waste dev time and cause fights among the player base.

Or, to put it more bluntly, you will never get what you want. If the devs try to give it to you, the players will take it away. You're only asking for disappointment.

Originally Posted by Talraen

Or, to put it more bluntly, you will never get what you want. If the devs try to give it to you, the players will take it away. You're only asking for disappointment.

Don't think I've ever seen it put more accurately before.

Originally Posted by OcieKo

If you including the end of msq quest for 2.0, the 3.0 had 3 4 man dungeons and an 8 man trial on day 1, not 2 dungeons. Still 4 pieces of endgame content, also wasnt bismarck and ravana ex already in on day 1? So that be 3 4 man dungeons and 3 8 man trials, which would add up to 6 pieces of lvl 60 content. Also you barely had to do a fraction of the sidequests to get all the aether currents, maybe 5/30 per zone, its better now that theyre on the first in the chains but still. MSQ gave you 3/5 currents and in AL you got all of em just from the MSQ. I had to do most of the sidequest on future jobs because i just didnt need them to lvl up. Before you say took my time and did daily roulette, my first 60 was PLD on the morning of the official release. Farming gear pretty much accomodated most of the xp needed.

You cannot include 3.0 content in the delay between patch cycles because we paid an additional $40 for it. What I listed above released in the subsequent eight month span and it simply wasn't enough. At no other point did the game suffer such a massive drought, though that is primarily because nearly half of what did release fell flat on its face. Like I said, the fact the devs specifically announced they will not take a break like that without better preparation speaks volumes. They wouldn't say it had things gone well.

Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur

I'm sorry you didn't level any other classes than Monk. 3.0 had plenty of gameplay. Most of it was not at Endgame. I spent most of those first few weeks leveling all 3 tanks to 60 and collecting the new gears sets.

The WoW "Only Endgame is important" mentality is an incredibly toxic.

This is always a silly argument. Someone who has no interest playing certain jobs won't see leveling them as content because... well, it isn't. I mean, think about it. Would you consider doing someone you don't like/have no interest in fun?

Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor

You cannot include 3.0 content in the delay between patch cycles because we paid an additional $40 for it.

Looks like their response was aimed at Moonlite and their claim that 3.0 launched with only 2 pieces of end-game content, rather than yours about the delays and content added up through 3.2.

Originally Posted by Berethos

Looks like their response was aimed at Moonlite and their claim that 3.0 launched with only 2 pieces of end-game content, rather than yours about the delays and content added up through 3.2.

Yep. Since the day you could hit 60 there has been more than 2 gearing progress instances. Pretty sure it was 6 as i stated. That point was more on her claim of "not enough to do for two weeks til alex started"