Quote Originally Posted by Onidemon View Post
Ok look, this is for all people against jumping. I'll use the same argument i used before and i want someone to tell me why they disagree or why it wouldn't apply to FFXIV. "it looks stupid" will not be accepted.

a 2011 FPS like MW3, doesn't need jump. I can imagine the game without it, but does that mean that it wouldn't improve it? Does that mean that all the mechanics attached to it and the freedom of movement it gives you is pointless? I think not. IF EA makes Battlefield 4, has the most insane graphics and physics engine the world has ever seen but they didn't add jump, nor do you have a HUD or ragdoll physics or blood when shooting enemies. Do you think that the gamers and the critics would forgive them? Do you think that the game would be more attractive than Activision's offering who incorporates all these gameplay feature which add to the fun factor and overall experience just because it has slightly better graphics or physics?

Just like BMW's new car won't be liked if it didn't have cup holders, AC, ABS, Cruise control, electric windows but instead let you walk right through it's doors like pure magic.

You just don't put yourself below competition from the start. You don't innovate or move forward by sticking to what worked for you 10 years ago. Apple's products wouldn't be so popular if they always did the same thing over and over again. The ipod didn't need a touch screen to play music but having one made it hell lot better.

You can't take a look at some gameplay aspects that everyone else is using for a good reason and dismiss it with comments like it looks stupid. If the way the others made it looks stupid, then it is up to you to make it better and that is an advantage you will have over everyone else. Refusing to use something because someone else didn't make good use of it just leaves you with a product that is actually worst and lacking compared to the other comapany's less then optimal attempt.
i agree that if one company can do it better that will be fine. but thats why we are having this converstion to help them make it better for everyone. and thats why im promoting people to compromise.
referencing games like MW3 or Battlefield isnt helping any, and is not much of a valid point because thats a completely different game type. if your playing a game where you run around and shoot, you will probably need to jump because thats what the game type is based around, thats the core mechanics of the game.
but an MMO does not need jump. its an added feature that is not required to play the game. so since jump is just icing on the cake, it can be done in many different ways, and it CAN interfere with the Core intent of the game. (to be an RPG, and a good story RPG) by breaking immersion, thats why if its going to be done, we just want it to be done right or not be done at all.