A consern about space efficieny since stormblood is not getting enough space increase

[odintius]

If items are such a issue on server stability they should also look for way to relieve that burden retainers are a great way to help out or other methods perhaps. For job you generally play allot have the gear on you for those you play less often have presets were you put gear on mannequins and swap out when needed.

[AsahinaMyLove]

Neverwinter have an OWN HUUUGE Bag only for Materials! and Items stack at 999 not just 99. Why our nice game cant have that...?

At Stormblood we get AGAIN so many materials.. you need another 2-3 retainer to store them <-< (Thats why I dont craft Food, 3-6 different items for 1 dish is way to much inventory space)

[Ama_Hamada]

Let me Craft out of my retainers inventory.. this will save alot of reg inventory space

That was part of the point of complaining about the menu bloat and better streamlining. In 1.0 I could pull materals out of the retainer without taking it off the markets, it just felt better steamlined system then what we got now. I disagree with talking retainer for items pulls your items off the markets. If you are going to do that we should have somewhere that is used for storage only, not storage + selling things.

Also that brings up another question. How meany items should we be allowed to sell at once? Is it fair that people pay extra money to sell more? Should this continue? should there be more balance between people that can afford 2 accounts +6 retainers each who do this to get around the specialty cap and someone with say 1 account and 4 retainers?

[KisaiTenshi]

That was part of the point of complaining about the menu bloat and better streamlining. In 1.0 I could pull materals out of the retainer without taking it off the markets, it just felt better steamlined system then what we got now. I disagree with talking retainer for items pulls your items off the markets. If you are going to do that we should have somewhere that is used for storage only, not storage + selling things.

Also that brings up another question. How meany items should we be allowed to sell at once? Is it fair that people pay extra money to sell more? Should this continue? should there be more balance between people that can afford 2 accounts +6 retainers each who do this to get around the specialty cap and someone with say 1 account and 4 retainers?

Realistically, one account should only be able to put as many retainers up as they are willing to pay for. This is more about fairness and less about greed. Greedy players who want to spend more real world money, can put up as many retainers as they want as long as they are paying for "store access", not "storage access", and this lack of distinction is why there is an inventory crunch at all. Allow players to create 50 retainers if they really really want them, but each additional retainer can only be assigned to "store", "storage", or "job", not all of the above. Only two retainers can be assigned to "Store", all others can be assigned to storage-only. Only two retainers can be out on a job at once. Retainers that are store-minding can't be out on a job. Item's flagged as "for sale" remain in the retainer's inventory until sold or removed from the market, and you can sell anything from any retainer in any store, but you're still limited to 20 items in each store. If you want to pay more real world money then you can rent more store spaces.

As a further improvement to the store, I'd suggest changing the way the store works to be more market based. eg "Buy at X, sell at Y", therefor solving part of the "(badplayer) is undermining me" problem by allowing players to specify a price that they will buy a certain item at as long as the retainer has space, or the price that the retainer will automatically sell those items on the store if they have it. This would allow players to actually just sell things on the market without looking for the best price or mis-pricing things because the game tells you the NPC price.

[Berethos]

Let me Craft out of my retainers inventory.. this will save alot of reg inventory space

I'd personally like this someday, though I suspect they'd need to create a special crafting storage space to do it (which is exactly how WoW does it...you can pull stuff from the reagent bank from anywhere, it doesn't pull from the main bank last I checked) and adding that might actually be easier than reworking the retainer allow for such "in the field" calls.

[Berethos]

Neverwinter have an OWN HUUUGE Bag only for Materials! and Items stack at 999 not just 99. Why our nice game cant have that...?

Isn't that the game where getting the 5 36 slot bags runs around $90 real money or an ungodly amount of Astral Diamonds?

[Ama_Hamada]

Realistically, one account should only be able to put as many retainers up as they are willing to pay for. This is more about fairness and less about greed. Greedy players who want to spend more real world money, can put up as many retainers as they want as long as they are paying for "store access", not"storage access", and this lack of distinction is why there is an inventory crunch at all. Allow players to create 50 retainers if they really really want them, but each additional retainer can only be assigned to "store", "storage", or "job", not all of the above. Only two retainers can be assigned to "Store", all others can be assigned to storage-only. Only two retainers can be out on a job at once. Retainers that are store-minding can't be out on a job. Item's flagged as "for sale" remain in the retainer's inventory until sold or removed from the market, and you can sell anything from any retainer in any store, but you're still limited to 20 items in each store. If you want to pay more real world money then you can rent more store spaces.

As a further improvement to the store, I'd suggest changing the way the store works to be more market based. eg "Buy at X, sell at Y", therefor solving part of the "(badplayer) is undermining me" problem by allowing players to specify a price that they will buy a certain item at as long as the retainer has space, or the price that the retainer will automatically sell those items on the store if they have it. This would allow players to actually just sell things on the market without looking for the best price or mis-pricing things because the game tells you the NPC price.

Yeah I do like that and why I am trying to give more for SE think about. Give us more free space. Maybe the retainer rental thing is supposed to curb how much someone can sell at once. It would be nice say have a chest in house/fc/appt/inn/ retainer bell? where you can craft out of that does not sell anything.

Isn't that the game where getting the 5 36 slot bags runs around $90 real money or an ungodly amount of Astral Diamonds?

better then what we got, lamo (assuming that game does not have the bloat like we do) and paying once > paying double sub. 2 x 6 month for 6 retainers costs more then that.

[Kingmanath]

Don't forget all the housing items.

I got a private medium house, a FC room and a Flat so for all the indoor items it's not really a problem, i can stock in my room or my flat. Moreover there will increase it in SB (only for houses ?). But people with nothing, or just a flat or a room and who are waiting for a FC/private house, all these items (events, retainers missions) accumulate in inventory/retainer.

For garden furnitures, there is a limitation and no increase expected in SB. I got a retainer with many garden items : I can't sell them because already used, and one day I could change my garden. They are expensive (trials special items for example), so it would be a waste to trash them.

[Ama_Hamada]

Don't forget all the housing items.

I got a private medium house, a FC room and a Flat so for all the indoor items it's not really a problem, i can stock in my room or my flat. Moreover there will increase it in SB (only for houses ?). But people with nothing, or just a flat or a room and who are waiting for a FC/private house, all these items (events, retainers missions) accumulate in inventory/retainer.

For garden furnitures, there is a limitation and no increase expected in SB. I got a retainer with many garden items : I can't sell them because already used, and one day I could change my garden. They are expensive (trials special items for example), so it would be a waste to trash them.

yep, we need a way to store that, ill put it on my list.
added as 13.

[Vaer]

Don't forget all the housing items.
For garden furnitures, there is a limitation and no increase expected in SB. I got a retainer with many garden items : I can't sell them because already used, and one day I could change my garden. They are expensive (trials special items for example), so it would be a waste to trash them.

Also, there’s a new storage, so you’ll be able to store items such as the outdoor furnishings, so please use it as a storage space.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post4121685

Help is on the way, maybe.