SE Please add jump and swiming

[Jynx]

Your newly edited sig only proves to us how closed-minded you are. You're stuck in the past and only your standards prevail. Good luck with that.

Are you the kind of guy who doesn't buy a game becausse your favorite reviewer gave it a bad score, despite all knowledge that you probably enjoy it?

I don't see the issue with having your onw standards about what is fun for you...

[Zaireeka2025]

Are you the kind of guy who doesn't buy a game becausse your favorite reviewer gave it a bad score, despite all knowledge that you probably enjoy it?

No, but it seems with the way you advocate your point that you are the type. Your best argument for avoiding jump implementation is that you will be forced to use it in battles since it will be the optimal way of killing a mob/boss. Yoshi has never stated that jump would be used in that way. So your usual argument doesn't even apply beyond players' ideas (you already know this I'm sure). You seem to be low on ammunition in this argument.

What Yoshi did state was that it would be nice to not feel stuck to the ground all the time. He believes this because he understands the nature of jump in the context of what mmo gamers are used to; more importantly from his own personal experience. Part of the reason SE even hired him as producer and director is because he understands what this genre is bringing to the table for 2011 and beyond. Let him do his job.

I will play this game regardless of whether jump is implemented, but will always blame those afraid of evolving if it isn't. We'd probably already have it if it weren't for you guys. Thanks for holding us back.

My vision for jump:

~Have it so that players can jump whenever they want/need, but make it realistic and in-tune with the current high quality animation style. This means a fairly instant jump upon button activation, but ending with a nice smooth landing animation which needs to finish its cycle before being able to spam it again. This would avoid what FFXI players fear the most in terms of incessant bunny hopping.

~Have jump actually coincide with the design of 2.0 so that there could be reasons to jump (i.e. in dungeons over pitfalls that could drop us a level below). Falling from heights too high would hurt our HP (like in Zelda), but cliffsides should still have invisible walls (no need to fall off cliffs since this would only be an instant death hassle).

~If jumping was to be implemented into battles (this one's for you Jynx), they shouldn't be regular jumps but instead dodging rolls in all directions.

~If/when swimming is added, let us climb (yes, climb) up ladders/vines to high ledges and swan dive into the water. This would be awesome as an entrance to an instanced dungeon.

~Allow us to jump while on chocoback, but let us glide down to the ground with certain (black) chocobos.

[Jynx]

No, but it seems with the way you advocate your point that you are the type. Your best argument for avoiding jump implementation is that you will be forced to use it in battles since it will be the optimal way of killing a mob/boss. Yoshi has never stated that jump would be used in that way. So your usual argument doesn't even apply beyond players' ideas (you already know this I'm sure). You seem to be low on ammunition in this argument.

I like that you have a good vision of how a jump system would work, but I have no other optiont than to assume the system will be how some players imagine it. You even have a nice solution to athstetic issues with the system.

I wouldn't be as oposed to something of that sorts, I'm still preferable to not jumping but it at least takes into concession the fact some people don't want to see people jumping around like rabits.

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But to the point where I seemingly buy games based on reviews, I'm not sure where you got the idea but Considering my collection counts a good deal of games that reviewers don't really find "Amazing" I can't say that I do.

Among those kinds of titles would be Disgaea series and Dynasty wariors <_< Love those games as repetative as they are.

[Zaireeka2025]

But to the point where I seemingly buy games based on reviews, I'm not sure where you got the idea but Considering my collection counts a good deal of games that reviewers don't really find "Amazing" I can't say that I do.

I'm not sure where you got the idea either. This game got some of the lowest ratings ever, and I love this game. Either way, thanks for understanding where I'm coming from.