Why everyone wants do PotD speed run?

[Limonia]

Because of this, I just only ever duo PotD with my boyfriend now.
Too many times we had at least one person standing in the exit ALL THE TIME and insulting us when we were looking for silver chests. We didn't even go into every room, and we tried to be as fast as possible. But I absolutely hate doing all the work in dungeons etc. for others who do nothing at all. I don't see why I should level his character.
After we noticed that even with low aetherpool we cleared the floors almost as fast as with randoms like that, we never did PotD with a matched party ever again.
I get that many people want to do PotD only for leveling, but it's still group content. If one wants to ignore every chest to stand in the exit and three don't, I don't see why we should keep that one in the group. It's the same the other way around. If you're not willing to adjust to what the other three members want, maybe you would reach your goal faster if you make a PF group and everyone would be happier I guess.

[Nixxe]

Well. The question is.Why people wants speed run EVERY SINGLE THING in the game?

Because time has value and nobody wants to waste their time dawdling through content they've done a dozen times already when all they care about is the shiny thing at the end.

[ToniRomo]

I'd rather just speedrun to level quicker. It's easier to just grab a 260 Shire weapon then bother with getting +90/90.

[Feidam]

This going to be an unpopular opinion, but I wish they'd remove the exp from the palace of the dead. Sure it's fast leveling but imo it has caused an unpleasant side effect of people having no clue how to play their class. Not to mention all the extra's it was designed to proved as reward are not collected becuase people are to too busy skipping stuff for fast xp. Hell half of the time the speed runners have really crap aetherpool lvls.

[Feidam]

Because time has value and nobody wants to waste their time dawdling through content they've done a dozen times already when all they care about is the shiny thing at the end.

This kills me. It's a game. You are "wasting" time anyway just by playing it. If time was that valuable you would be doing something productive.

Also,the argument they just want the shiny kills me too. If you don't want to do the content don't sign up to the dungeon.

Too many turn these games into jobs imo.

[Nixxe]

This kills me. It's a game. You are "wasting" time anyway just by playing it. If time was that valuable you would be doing something productive.

Also,the argument they just want the shiny kills me too. If you don't want to do the content don't sign up to the dungeon.

Too many turn these games into jobs imo.

This is based on all sorts of flawed reasoning and bad assumptions I don't really care to fully dissect and refute at the moment. Suffice it to say this idea that leisure time is time wasted is one of the most ass backwards beliefs anyone ever came up with. Time spent enjoying myself is time that is never wasted.

[Ama_Hamada]

No i don't know nothing about green tokens, in fact it's my first time even hearing about green tokens.

Well SORRY if i'm WORST player in whole game who can't get past Alexander - The Cuff of the Son raid, so STOP making FUN from it when i never was good on end game part of FFXIV and even in FFXIV ARR i never able beat The Binding Coil of Bahamut Turn 5 raid.So there is no point using party finder to beat Alexander - The Cuff of the Son raid when i always cause wipe no matter how i try to beat Alexander - The Cuff of the Son.

The reason why i'm talking about ilvl weapons are for OTHER jobs that i havent got to lvl 60 yet and i only have ilvl weapon for my summoner and i better weapon in some point.
Like i said I DON'T LIKE PVP, so stop trying to force me to play PvP when i don't wan't play PvP.

I know i can make ilvl 275 relic weapon but there is one problem, it takes really long to get it and i already used around 1 month doing first anima relic weapon for my main and i'm still on part where i need get umbrites and crystal sand.

Let me tell you something, i am TRYING all my best so stop saying that i'm a lazy player when i'm not.

So if you want i can stop playing FFXIV completely.

first off it is not just you, it is you and 7 other people. To me you simply wiped once and complained about it, that is not how you do things. One person does not cause that to fail, so in the end I am just confused with why you having so much trouble. Bloody said it well, I am confused as heck how you are ranting about not doing something that is ilevel min 200 and your 263 or w/e. You really ... I mean.. I did it without knowing its like.. I heal and people do what you need to do.

Honestly I am on your side for the most part, people should let you get chests, see my comment to the next person. I am just trying to give you tools and ideas of alternative ways. In 2 months it is not even going to matter.

So your basic argument is you should be allowed to get chests in deep correct? I agree. I just can't understand though how someone can't get 1 relic, when I am going to do so in the next too weeks from past build up of simply doing 5 dailies per day to get the sands and umbrites and such.

You don't get to decide what DF is for. The community as a whole does. And similarly, I can say "stop impeding on speedrunner progress".

Majority rule is fair when you have 4 random people, because everyone's experience is equally valuable. My goal is no less or more important than yours.

yoshi-p said himself, also rushing someone forcing to skip chest and not let someone progress is instantly selfish, I do not understand such toxicity. This is a good example and proof that pure democracy does not work, all you do is oppress people. Look at the post below yours, the one I am replying too, you want to drive people to quit over your selfishness of 5 minutes? This game hands you exp as is, you don't need get all jobs to 60 in a day, give me a break.

I'd rather just speedrun to level quicker. It's easier to just grab a 260 Shire weapon then bother with getting +90/90.

You never thought of the reverse of this?:

"I rather look for chests because I have all jobs at 60 and there is a limiting factor of grabbing a shire weapon for all my jobs because of a 900 (formerly 450 cap). I can get a 255 weapon in a day, not a week or in the past, 3 weeks. You telling people they shouldn't need silvers so that gives you a right to harass people is wrong. Exp off something else, game hands you exp, you do not need to be harassing people over 5 minutes. If you cannot cooperate with people, do not do deep."

Also a6:
https://youtu.be/SCWg8ylFcbc
tldr: need 2 tanks for that one, not exactly something you can do with 1 healer, 1 tank, 6 dps to burn though like some others.

[Nixxe]

yoshi-p said himself, also rushing someone forcing to skip chest and not let someone progress is instantly selfish, I do not understand such toxicity. This is a good example and proof that pure democracy does not work, all you do is oppress people. Look at the post below yours, the one I am replying too, you want to drive people to quit over your selfishness of 5 minutes? This game hands you exp as is, you don't need get all jobs to 60 in a day, give me a break.

Perhaps you should consider the very real possibility that you have a penchant for being melodramatic.

[dragonseth07]

rushing someone forcing to skip chest and not let someone progress is instantly selfish, I do not understand such toxicity.

You know what else is selfish? Holding up someone else's level progress because you want more chests. See? It goes both ways.

[Ama_Hamada]

Let me tell you some thing, when i tride to do Alexander - The Cuff of the Son raid i tride doing it a lot but every time it ended up for wipe fest because of me when i died on boss Mechanisms all the time as healer, which then cause other 7 give up and leave the party.

And like already said multiply times the reason why i want do PotD to get ilvl 255 weapons are for my other jobs that i've been leveling slowly and for my dark knight and astrologian that both are stuck on ilvl 235 Padjali weapon that i able to get after i got ilvl 255 kinna weapon formy scholar (main) and bard when people still did collect silver chests.

But if you want i give up trying to even get decent gear for jobs i want before 4.0 comes and also stop playing FFXIV completely when i'm not good enough to beat content that is super easy for everyone but for me too hard.

You are not giving me enough information to work with.

Also a6:
https://youtu.be/SCWg8ylFcbc
tldr: need 2 tanks for that one, not exactly something you can do with 1 healer, 1 tank, 6 dps to burn though like some others.

You know what else is selfish? Holding up someone else's level progress because you want more chests. See? It goes both ways.

No it does not, you did not bother with my full message. Keep spreading toxicity for all i care, i am tried of spreed runners harassing people.

yoshi-p said himself, also rushing someone forcing to skip chest and not let someone progress is instantly selfish, I do not understand such toxicity. This is a good example and proof that pure democracy does not work, all you do is oppress people. Look at the post below yours, the one I am replying too, you want to drive people to quit over your selfishness of 5 minutes? This game hands you exp as is, you don't need get all jobs to 60 in a day, give me a break.

This means exp gain in this game is fast enough, and I would argue too fast, there is no reason whatsoever, no excuse, people legitimately have for not letting people find chests because you get too much handed to you, exp wise, as is.